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I admit I’m super surprised that the conscription age is 25.
Drafts are barbaric.
We shouldn’t accept this shit at any age in any country.
If we all just fucking stopped doing the dirty work of warmongers we would no longer have wars.
The warmonger is the one invading Ukraine.
If the russian civilans followed this rule there would be no aggressors.
Lol nvm you’re right, forcing 18 year olds to kill people against their will is totally a good guy move
Lmao you people are brainwashed psychopaths.
Russian civilians are being conscripted. As are prisoners. As are North Koreans. As are Houthis. What would your solution be, just let those armies take over Ukraine?
The solution is for everyone to reject war.
Making excuses to kill like in Ukraine is not any more just than any other excuse to kill.
If we want the US to stay in control of the world then it’s necessary to fight Russia, but it’s not necessary for amy of them to die
The solution is for everyone to reject war.
Aw shucks, is that all it takes? How’d we overlook that?? We’ll get cracking on that right away.
In the meanwhile it makes sense for a country being invaded to do whatever it can for self preservation, especially in a defensive manner.
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How exactly do you propose we get everyone to reject war?
Because Ukrainians in general didn’t want the war to begin with.
education is what makes people not fall for dumb war propaganda
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That’s rich. “Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps.” tho even the scraps are gonna run dry soon. Fuck biden. He could have gone down in history as a truly great leader, got everything handed to him on a silver platter, but clearly, he wishes to walk in Chamberlin’s shoes.
Honestly I’m ashamed, especially as a European, we should be doing so much more. We haven’t learned anything from the great wars… We’re experiencing a “what if Czechoslovakia fought back” scenario, we can end it right there in Ukraine. But no…
That’s rich. “Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps
Yep, and you have every Democratic Party chickenhawk over here in the US, in total safety, cheering for it.
At that rate you might as well let NATO serve the purpose it was created for. Even tho that will.probably spark a world war.
Honestly I’m all for it; then handing the keys to Trump lmao.
Or implement a No Fly Zone and fully commit NATO forces to air defense. See Putin squirm on what to do and how to react. Makes the Putin-Trump relationship tense. Trump backing down would be seen as weak. Putin wouldn’t retaliate because he wouldn’t risk losing his puppet.
“keep the Americans in, the Germans down, and the Russians out”
best thing for America is to prolong this war as long as possible.
The best thing would have been to fund Ukraine a lot early in and knock Russia down on the cheap. But you have a point thats probably the next best thing geopolitically. The red blooded american in me is just mad we didnt take the chance at an old enemy.
Some of the gear in Ukraine right now was literally created to fight the Soviet Union. Incredible that we didn’t send it all right away, one of the biggest defense blunders of this century, easily
Exactly. It’s like a vending machine, you throw in money, and dead Russian soldiers fall out from the bottom. All without endangering the lives of NATO soldiers. How many cold war US presidents would dream of this?
I am in no way minimizing the sacrifice and suffering of the Ukrainian people, but that is happening with or without Western support - the difference is the outcome, if we give them enough weapons, they can win and end the war.
American goals in Ukraine are
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make Russia pay dearly for every inch of land they take in Ukraine
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use this opportunity to give a nice cash injection to our defense contractors
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gather as much intel & data on both Russia & the modern battlefield in general. Sort of like the Spanish Civil War before WW2. A playground to test out new technologies
These goals have already been accomplished. It’s been a great couple years in terms of hurting Russia for cheap.
We want to prolong this war as long as possible. A Ukrainian victory would be just as bad as a Ukrainian loss. It’s why we modulate our aid carefully. Like Chomsky was saying before his stroke - “we will fight them to the last Ukrainian”
I think a lot of people get blinded by propaganda in the moment. Even people who retroactively would be able to see it just fine (try and find someone who believes Iraq was a justified war) strongly believe the party lines.
Reality is American interests and Ukrainian interests are not aligned.
Ukraine deserves to exist and no bullshit you make up can deprive them of that right
American strategic goals and what Ukraine deserves are two separate topics that have no connection with each other
The Kurds have a right to exist, what happened to them once there was no more utility to the US?
The US is participating in the destruction of Ukraine for their own strategic interests. Just like every other thing the US has ever done.
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How about sending artillery shells instead? If the US is running out of artillery shells it should invest in some production capacity since it’s critical for any large scale war, absolute no brainer.
artillery shells buy you attack power.
Soldiers buy you military might.
once Trump gets into power they will no longer get military attack from the US and they won’t have the time to drum up military might because Russia is doubling their attacks on Jan 6th.
Also, bring back all the Ukrainian men living as expats abroad. If you want to use your Ukrainian passport to live in another country, it’s time to earn that right. Your country needs you.
Edit: if you’re downvoting at least say why, “I’m a Russian bot” will suffice. So will, “I’m a coward.”
