• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Let’s assume for a moment that somehow your salad was conscious. That’s an even bigger reason not to eat an animal that has to be fed on plants for a long time.

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      6 months ago

      Or maybe its just a fundamental fact of life that something has to die in order for you to live and virtue signaling about the degree to which you participate in that death is a pointless exercise.

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        6 months ago

        Ah yes, the old “I accidentally stepped on a fly, might as well exterminate the whole biosphere” defense

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          6 months ago

          “our new cancer drug is 99% effective!”

          “So it doesn’t work in 1% of cases? Then what’s the point, throw it away, we just have to accept that cancer is going to happen”

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          These arguments are exactly why people hate vegans. It’s nonsense.

          Not only do you jump to an insane straw man. You showcase that you ignore a clear increasing contradiction around your world view and choose reactionary nothing.

          If you care about life realize the harder question. If you care about the environment realize clear inefficiencues. Currently, you showcase nothing more than crude thoughtlessness.

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            6 months ago

            I’m not a vegan. Their argument was literally that morally there is no difference in the amount of death caused by any person for the purposes of consumption.

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        6 months ago

        This logic doesn’t make sense in any other context. Like, if I say we should try to reduce CO2 levels in the atmosphere, you could point out that emitting CO2 is a fundamental part of human life, so something something virtue signaling blah blah blah. Just because something is unavoidable to a certain degree doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to minimize it.

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        6 months ago

        Or maybe there’s happy middle where everyone can live comfortably while keeping the harm we cause at a minimum.

        Or, at the most selfish, we could make sure we don’t kill ourselves this decade or the next.