• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    Funny that this is just more divisive rhetoric enabling right-wing talking points . It’s almost like it’s not a matter of minorities, but of socioeconomic class and education disparities leading to people across the board voting against their own interests because they don’t know how to parse truth from bullshit.

    The sooner black WORKERS, latino WORKERS, white WORKERS all rally under the same banner that points the finger at the rich who controls the vast majority of resources in not just this country but globally, we’ll just keep fighting over increasingly fewer breadcrumbs.

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    Whether or not people are literally blaming minorities, Democrats have acted as if they are owed the votes of minorities and the working class which meant they felt no incentive to actually try and appeal to them or do more than token gestures.

    I’m not surprised they lost the minority vote. They’ve been asking for it for a while.

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    Or maybe the DNC refuses to speak to, let alone execute an agenda regarding the needs of the working class, election after election. Of course they’d be trounced after effectively revealing themselves as controlled opposition.

    My forlorn hope is a massive repudiation of the DNC establishment in the next round of primaries.

    Armed revolution in the face of predator drones with hellfires and 5th generation multi-role fighter aircraft is a fool’s errand for suicidal rubes.

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    No one is blaming minorities for the rise of Trump, they’re pointing out that since Trump expanded his margins across all demographics, Kamala Harris’ failure can’t be easily explained away by racism or misogyny, and there must be a deeper frustration among many of the groups that make up the Democrats’ coalition like black and Latino Americans. Also, I rarely hear Democrats make this point; they seem to mainly blame wokeness.

    Edit: OK, when I say “Democrats,” I mean actual Democrats — people who are in leadership positions in the party. I am not talking about unhinged liberals that are reveling in Trump’s anti-Gaza cabinet picks because they blame Muslims for their loss. Actual Democratic party members are much quieter about the collapse of the demographics that make up the Obama Coalition.

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    The moderate wing feels entitled to those votes.

    And for whatever reason they keep doubling down on refusing to do voter outreach and listening to what Dem voters want. Current leadership will never back away from the strategy of:

    What are ya gonna do, vote R?

    Because it’s obviously not working. As long as we allow the DNC to prioritize rewarding donor bundlers with leadership positions, it’ll never change.

    The only metric is bringing money in, so whoever pays the most gets to determine the party platform.

    Which wouldn’t suck so much if the DNC was the furthest right option. When that’s how the furtherest left option acts, turnout will always be abysmal and even when we “win” we still lose and billionaires always win.

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        You answered your own question.

        In a nation where money decides election wins, you’ve already completely lost. There is no longer a way to make a society here that focuses on the wellbeing of the citizenry as long as the correct framework remade to prohibit it exists. .

        The best we can hope for, if literally anyone gave shit one about there being a future here, is painful but necessary collapse, this system is completely corrupted and cannot be repaired. To not see this just makes one blind. The owners use the media they own for exclusive private benefit to divide the populace and maintain perpetual control.

        I voted for Harris out of harm reduction to attempt to mitigate some cruelty, but not with hope. Rejecting Reagan was our last chance, and we utterly failed, now the corruption is baked in generationally.

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          That doesn’t mean we can win without donors. Republicans had foreign bots and billionaires buying votes.

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                There isn’t a question in your previous comment.

                And apparently you haven’t heard the one.

                You don’t wrestle a pig in mud because it gets mud all over you and the pig likes it.

                It will only drive up donorship to the Republicans and foster more lenient bribery donation policy from the Democrats going forward.

                The Democrats need to actually submit themselves to overhauling campaign funding if they want to make any headway. But they want that money. They want it more than they want any of their alleged policy goals.

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                  Because of citizens united, money decides election wins. So how do we win without donors?

                  This was the question that you are avoiding.

                  To overhaul campaign funding they need to win. For that to happen they need donors.

                  Also, just because a saying exists doesn’t make it right.

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    Instead the base should focus their anger on the democratic party itself. Give us something to fight for or keep losing

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    Every election cycle, the Democrats and media start to fret about the black vote. Will black women turn out? Will black men vote correctly? And this cycle culminated in the Obamas going on a “pull your pants up and vote” tour to boost turnout.

    Now I’m not black, but I recognize double standards and condescension. I wouldn’t want to be treated that way.

    After the election, Latinos have been targeted by progressive rage and lashing out. I’ve seen people that I used to respect say that they deserve to be deported because of their vote.

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      What, they demanded incompetent racist fuckery. Order up! The fact that they brought down all women with them is, like, a bonus.

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      So black folks, brown folks, Hispanics, etc go ahead and vote for trump. Fuck around and find out. DNC sucks balls, but if you can’t vote minimally in your own interests you’re about to get what’s coming to you. Sorry about ya, the writing is on the wall.

      My Indiana coastal elite D voting ass is not spending any more time or energy saving morons from their own vote.