• The Assman@sh.itjust.works
    68·
    5 days ago

    I always say never work too hard. Managers don’t know how long things take because they don’t do any actual work. Set expectations accordingly.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
      24·
      5 days ago

      It’s a pretty damn sad thing having to do it if you’re a fair and honest person, but that’s just how the world works.

      (There are a few managers out there whom you can be honest towards without them taking away your reward for being efficient of going the extra mile, but in my personal experience those are pretty rare).

      • marcos@lemmy.world
        9·
        5 days ago

        I’ve pretty consistently seen the 1st level of management able to understand when you worked hard, and that it is not repeatable. Those problems tend to appear only when they report up what is happening.

        What is to say that often (not always), you can be honest with your manager if both of you can keep a secret.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
          5·
          5 days ago

          Well, sorta.

          Plenty (maybe even most) of 1st level manages will see and understand, but are still unable or unwilling to push back on unrealistic expectations coming from outside (sometimes not even from above, just from customer) so from the point of view of those working under them the result is the same if they’re not doing their own internal time reporting averaging and and are honest towards them.

          Further, they often fuck-up things, from planning to analysis and taking in account the dependencies on external providers and it’s the team that has to make up for it. Absolutelly, the managers will notice people going the extra mile … and do the same thing again next time around and it will be just as “unexpected” and “we have not other option” as all the previous times.

          I would even go as far as saying that the “understanding” manager that fucks you up anyway (sometimes because they’ll always put themselves above those working for them and might even be fake, others because they’re not very good at playing the game that needs to be played to other stakeholders) is the most common of all.

          Looking back (to almost 30 years of experience in several countries), some of my worst managers were “really nice” people but the team still suffered massivelly because they were not in fact good managers (they suffered alongside the team, for all the good that did to the rest) - essentially the team was holding the career of somebody who should probably be doing something else and at the end of the day, the managers rather than the rest were the ones getting more pay and bigger bonuses.

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
    15·
    4 days ago

    Exactly why you never give 100%. Never show them everything you got cause they’ll only want more

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
      11·
      4 days ago

      you jest but this is the reality.

      Two years ago I was working 12-16 hours a day. Got burned out.

      The stress isn’t worth it.

      I was constantly passed over for promotions because I was impossible to replace.

      now I put out 1/3 of the effort. that means tasks that took me one hour now take me 4 hours, one day is three days.

      I get done with my work and watch anime for 2/3 of my job now.

      I make $40k less than I should, and I just heard they’re taking away some of my yearly accrued vacation time (well everybody is impacted by this, not just me).

      The people aren’t all bad and the work is paid, so I guess I can pass some bullshit off and catch up on Black Clover.

      Some call it “quiet quitting”. I call it financial accruity financial optimization or fafo in short.

  • Dr_Box@lemmy.world
    8·
    5 days ago

    My work has been experimenting with a project for about 2 years now and this has been my life since then