• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    in 20 years nobody will be buying a tesla because theyll have killed off their repeat buyers

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      When Elon’s DOGE kills the economy, I don’t know who he thinks will be able to buy his shit. Maybe he can sell in Europe.

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        Nope, here a lot of people are wising up too. And he is constantly fighting with unions. His company will be oblitherated by the Chinese EV companies.

        And Cybertrucks won’t pass certification here.

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          Too bad the US has actively banned Chinese EVs from being imported to focus or their own behind the times shit models.

          I don’t actively research EVs yet as I’m not in the market, but that’s what I’ve read whenever I get a little interest in them. I’m not keen on investing until there are more charging places in my area before getting serious on the switch.

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            That’s fair. I’m from a small country with a very high charge station density… so for anything local it’s a no brainer. Plus I have a driveway to change on.

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      All less than 10 caught in cars in like 12 years? I mean, the cars are made like shit and it’s SO COOL to shit talk a TESLA, like oh my god how cool!

      But…

      By the units we got a way to go here my man.

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        How many?

        https://www.tesla-fire.com/

        Also, the bigger issue is not being able to escape the fire because you can’t find the manual releases. Pretty horrible death. Probably done that way to save a little bit of extra money to line Musk’s pockets.

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          Probably every vehicle has some number of stupid deaths. I assume you don’t fly because Boeing fucked up. That’s way more than 83 people if just one plane crashes.

          It’s just way cooler to shit on Tesla though. Very trendy. Very cool.

          0.052% (232 / 443,956) fire rate.

          Comparison to Industry Average: For context, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reports an average fire rate of 1.5 crashes per million miles for all vehicles. Tesla’s fire rate of 0.052% (based on the reported 232 fires) is significantly lower than this industry average.

          But it’s not very cool to do research that way shrug

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            What’s Tesla’s fire rate per million miles?

            And an ‘average fire rate of 1.5 crashes per million miles’ is unclear.

            What’s the distinction between crashes and fires here? Is like to make sense of the stats.

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              Let me google that for you:

              • Tesla vehicles have had a fire rate of one for every 175 million miles traveled, compared to the U.S. average of a vehicle fire for every 19 million miles traveled.
              • According to the National Fire Protection Association, Tesla’s fire rate is significantly lower than the national average, with one fire per 170 million miles driven.
              • A study by the University of Berkeley found that electric vehicle fires, including Tesla, occurred at a rate of 4 per billion miles, which is significantly lower than gasoline vehicles.

              Anything else I can type in your search engine?

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              Naw I already said Tesla sucks all through the thread. I’m sad someone says “Tesla accident” and you all swarm to it to gloat like your kid finally graduated special Ed. No shit accidents happen, but wheres the same offense when any other brand has a fuck up? It’s nowhere because smarmy lemurs are only watching tesla news.

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    So can we officially put Teslas down as worse than the Pinto, cause im pretty sure theyve killed more folks than the Pinto and its magic gas tank.

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    … with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car’s manual. It’s unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.

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      not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors

      That sounds… Well, fucking stupid.

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      In the 80s we had this little crank. Car didn’t need to be on. Crank wasn’t electric. Crank was kid-powered. Your dad just yelled at you. “HEY!!! ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN BACK THERE!!! YA LITTLE SHIT!!!”

      And you knew it was serious, because cars back then didn’t have A.C unless you were rich. So it was 90 degrees and the inside of the car was 110. Because YOU said we should put the reflective cover in the winshield, so it wouldn’t get so hot in the car, but nooooooooo, dad said you’d only be a minute in the store. Then you come back out 45 minutes later. Which as you know, in kid time is several weeks. So now it’s hot in the car. And the seat vynal is burning your legs, because you wore shorts.

      And so you ask if you can just open the car doors for a while before you get in, but noooooooo we got places to be.

      And so now you’re getting yelled at, to crank both windows down because SOMEONE is being an asshole.

      But at least you’re not burning in a vehicle with no way out!

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        So the earth has always been hot…

        EDIT: reminder to never again make a bad joke about climate change on liberal social media

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          Sure, if you think of the car as the earth, the windshield as greenhouse gases, and our political leaders/you as the dad having no idea what the hell they’re talking about.

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          I think it was more of a long way to say “manual windows and door handles have worked since cars were invented, why are we reinventing the wheel and introducing new fail points on something like a door handle by making it electric?”

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            We should be asking this with everything, honestly. We don’t need an electronic juice bag presser that “needs” to be connected to your wifi in order to work, or a fridge with a giant screen and camera on the inside so you can look at what’s in the fridge without gasp opening the door!

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            manual windows and door handles have worked since cars were invented

            Technically untrue: the first cars didn’t have doors at all.

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    Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn’t invent anything, it’s possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.

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      Would a car window breaker / striker tool work on a tesla?

      Ok just checked… looks like the only window that isn’t laminated is the driver side rear window which is a dumb design as far as safety design regardless of frame

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      Like… What tesla has? There are mechanical door releases, it’s the big lever on the handle.

      Yeah, it’s lacking on older models in the rear. But this car in question had those? I don’t understand how the front people didn’t get out. The rear ones, yeah, it’s quite fucked.

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        The ones they have are emergency releases and don’t activate the windows, in some models the emergency release is under the door pocket mat, under a cover that needs to be pried open, in others they’re behind the speaker grills.

        What I’m saying is that they 100% could have mechanical handles that activate the windows as the regular mean to open the doors, it’s a deliberate choice not to have them and that choice can kill people.