• Shard@lemmy.world
    834·
    10 days ago

    Alright where are all the YouTube premium apologetics that keep appearing everytime someone discusses any sort of Ad-blocker?! What do you guys have to say now?!

    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
      411·
      10 days ago

      No ads so far here but I definitely will cancel Premium if I start seeing ads. That’s literally the only thing I’m paying for.

      • infectoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        9 days ago

        Same. No ads yet but will cancel and delete if they start showing up.

        Been slowly moving over to Nebula anyway.

      • Matriks404@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 days ago

        As long as it have good value to me I will use it. The same as with other services.

        The thing is I don’t mostly mind paying for having YouTube without ads, but I would prefer if it didn’t have anything to do with Google in the first place.

    • frigidaphelion@lemmy.world
      11·
      10 days ago

      I have a youtube premium account. Used to just use u-block but my computer is non-functional and I now primarily consume media on my ipad so I got a subscription. So far I have not had any ads. Working on getting a new pc and coming back to the light

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
      156·
      10 days ago

      I’m continuing apologising for premium exclusively because it pays creators more, and more consistently. I never go on the internet without all the adblocks possible, the sight of an add makes me irrationally angry. I’m still paying for premium

        • rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          71·
          10 days ago

          If i paid money to every the patreon of every content creator that I want to support, it’d be a lot more money than youtube premium. Better believe ill be cancelling premium the very first ad I see though.

          • Mojave@lemmy.world
            92·
            10 days ago

            You throwing $12 a month or whatever towards patreons is strictly better than throwing $12 a month towards premium if what you care about is the creators getting paid

    • Caboose12000@lemmy.world
      5·
      9 days ago

      okay the adderall is kicking in so, sorry if this is a massive wall of text, but since you asked, adblockers are great, I never use the web without one when I can, but ads are only one part of why i pay for YouTube.

      here are all my reasons:

      • easy adless YouTube on non-android smart TV
      • YouTube music (dont have to pay for Spotify)
      • auto background video downloading to save on mobile data when I leave the house
      • supports more creators (albeit in smaller amounts) than I could ever afford to support via patreon or merch (and supports them directly proportionally to how much I watch thier content, so I never risk paying a creator that ive lost interest in or forgetting to add a creator’s patreon)

      I would never try to convince someone else to pay for YouTube, it’s defintily not for everyone, especially when a decent adblocker will satisfy most people. But for some people like me, it just makes sense, and I don’t understand why some people get so mad to learn I’m paying for it.

      Google is a gross company for sure, hell except for YouTube ive pretty much completly degoogled my life. I can use Plex for movies and shows, Proton for mail and calandar, magic earth for GPS, Firefox and DDG for search, etc. but there isnt a good replacement for YouTube especially since its one of my main hobbies. peertube and other video hosting sites really just dont compare for my usecase

      ofc I think its shitty that theyre trialing showing ads to premium users in Germany, but honestly that would barely affect me if it was happening where I live. I use adblockers everywhere except my TV, so most of the time it’d be impossible for me to see an ad whether YouTube tried to serve me one or not.

      if you were genuinly asking what people who pay for YouTube have to say about this, I hope that answered your question

      • Shard@lemmy.world
        21·
        9 days ago

        I appreciate your nuanced answer. That’s something a lot of “why not just pay for YouTube premium” guys don’t

        You raised good points and if you’re happy to pay for the convenience, I’m not going to fight you on that.

        While I don’t fully agree with paying for a service that doesn’t listen to their customers(bring back dislikes), I can still see where you’re coming from.

        • Caboose12000@lemmy.world
          2·
          9 days ago

          edit: sorry for the wall of text again lol

          thanks, I appreciate your response too. I wasn’t sure what to expect when I wrote it lol but this response was a pleasant surprise

          I will admit that I never really engaged with likes/dislikes, so while I was annoyed on a conceptual level when they removed dislikes it didnt really affect me. I might feel differently about paying youtube if that wasn’t the case.

          I wasn’t aware when I wrote this that there were so many people who respond to simple complaints about ads with “just buy premium”, that was a total blindspot for me. Most comments ive seen about it (before reading comments on this thread, dear god) were more similar to mine, albeit more brief.

          at risk of overgeneralizing, I think anyone who pays for YouTube /just/ for the ads (while watching mostly on PC or android), is probably an idiot. adblock is trivial to set up on those platforms and will likely soon prove to be more effective at preventing ads than paying for YouTube. its upsetting the sheer amount of people that will give money to evil corporations just to avoid having to think at all about what theyre consuming, and if thats really the loud majority of people who pay for YouTube then I can defintily understand the negative interactions ive had in the past.

          this has been an enlightening discussion for me, thanks for that!

    • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      I have yt premium because my view counts as 1000x an ad supported view does.

      I still end up using yt-dlp because playback in firefox is ass.

    • CptEnder@lemmy.world
      45·
      10 days ago

      Uhh I don’t care who doesn’t pay for YTP or just blocks them, seems like an odd thing to care about?

      I do have grandfathered $7/mo GPM (YTM) which comes with free YTP and I’ve yet to see ads at all. I don’t even get ads on my linked gaming YT account. This kinda seems like misinformation?

      If you think paying $10+ for Spotify instead of $7 YTM+YTP then yes, you are a fucking idiot.

      • Randelung@lemmy.world
        42·
        10 days ago

        I had GPM and never got YTP. Switched o Tidal becuse YTM keeps repeating songs. I’ve had a song go 6 times in sequence.

        So, shitty product, shitty support (see blackmail video claims), shitty creator compensation. Goodbye Google.

        • waddle_dee@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 days ago

          This is exactly why I just switched to Tidal. And I had the grandfathered price. It’s just not worth it for a shitty product.

    • piskertariot@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 days ago

      There’s still the step where Youtube has Spotify level ads. Whatever the visual equivalent of bait-and-switch-fav-song/LISTENTOMYPODCAST/oh-god-are-those-sirens-behind-me is.

  • Aido@lemmy.world
    34·
    9 days ago

    The guy who took this screenshot and posted it to Reddit likely has Premium Lite, which still shows ads on music videos. The title of the video is probably cut out to hide it.

  • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world
    29·
    10 days ago

    Premium+ coming in 2026 for truly ad-free experience. Premium++ coming in 2028 for truly truly ad-free experience. Premium+++ coming in 2030 for truly truly truly ad-free experience.

  • db2@lemmy.world
    161·
    10 days ago

    Yeah, anyone who didn’t see this coming hasn’t been paying attention.

    • Daveyborn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 days ago

      To be fair google could have one of those days since workplace accident boards but for bad youtube decisions.

      I’d be surprised if it hit 3 digits.

    • Glitterbomb@lemmy.world
      9·
      10 days ago

      I’ve had some hideous collection of ABP, ublock, and some extension that hides all shorts all on chrome and I’ve somehow completely dodged all the drama in the past year. I’ve never had to manually update or fiddle with any settings. I’ve seen all the crap everyone else is getting, and I constantly think its right around the corner, but nothing. Sometimes the page loads funny and just shows a black rectangle, and i think welp they finally got to me, but an immediate refresh always fixes it. Maybe one day I’ll have to deal with it

      • ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 days ago

        I’ve dodged nearly everything with only Firefox + Ublock + Ghostery. The most I ever got was maybe one warning page on YouTube and never seen anything about it again.

    • KneeTitts@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      Me on my home lab Invidious instance: What are “ads”?

      Me on my firestick with smarttube: What are “ads”?

  • umbraroze@lemmy.world
    101·
    10 days ago

    Fun thing, I don’t want to get YouTube Premium because YouTube has a huge bunch of bugs and glitches and crap UI design and since they’re the only service in the niche there’s been no indication they’ll ever fix their shit.

    I didn’t care about YouTube Music, so losing ads on stock YouTube apps was literally the only reason I was even considering getting Premium.

    But if it doesn’t even do the one job…?

    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      10 days ago

      VPN to a country with a lower cost, and sign up there. It used to be Turkey and India, where you could get a Family Plan for like $2/mo - but they’ve cracked down a bit on it.

      We use YT for so much in our ‘household’ that it made sense to pool together and get Premium, and honestly it feels good having ~5 people who consume a tonne of content ad-free for nearly no cost while still supporting our preferred content creators.

  • GrymEdm@lemmy.world
    6·
    10 days ago

    Part 1: All of history from corporations becoming a thing to present day.

    Part 2: The results of heartless corporate policy for the foreseeable future.

  • yamanii@lemmy.world
    4·
    10 days ago

    They even said it was a mistake when someone said they got ads before and it went viral. Google is evil.

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    1·
    10 days ago

    A year before they start serving ads then a year later to the month they start serving ads. Either that’s a lucky guess which happens or he’s got insider info lol