Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismissed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s proposal for a rapid peace deal with Russia, arguing it would lead to a “loss” for Ukraine.

Trump, who has repeatedly claimed he could resolve the war in 24 hours, aims for a quick end, but Zelenskyy insists that a rushed settlement would compromise Ukraine’s independence.

Speaking in Budapest, Zelenskyy also rejected Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s call for a cease-fire, citing failed attempts in 2014.

Additionally, he warned of North Korean troop involvement in Ukraine if Western allies don’t increase political pressure on Pyongyang.

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      Trump to Baltic states: “I am altering the deal, pray I do not alter it further.”

      Just kidding: “You better say nice things about me or you’re next!”

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        The Baltics are in a much stronger position than Ukraine. They are in Nato already, and are geographically important as a buffer to the only Nato members who actually take Russia as a serious threat (Norway, Sweden, Finland and Poland.) Tactically, air and sea defence of the Baltics is externally feasible, and the Baltics nations have focused on building land defense over the recent years. If you combine this with the obvious Russian war fatigue, and lack of resources, it is clear the Russia doesn’t have the capacity to invade the Baltics over the next two years at least, even if the Belarusians participated.

        All of this becomes even harder if the Russians are gifted Ukraine and have to occupy it militarily.

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    I often see the argument “Which part of your country would you be willing to cede in the name of peace?”

    Normally this would be a valid argument, but in trumps case, I’m sure he’d gladly cede California or some other blue state if it meant he gained something from it. He has no scruples or integrity, and thinks other heads of state are the same.

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        I can’t wait for Texas to leave. They say the want to, fuckin’ do it pussies.

        Edit: yes, I know there are many innocent people there, but it’s not like the federal government is protecting them now anyway.

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      I’m pretty sure most of the blue states, California especially, would be happy to leave the union at this point. What’s in it for us?

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        Imagine all the blue states (2 of which are top 3 in GDP) left the states?! I’ll gladly accept Cali and NY into Canada!

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        I would gladly be willing to cede Alabama, Mississippi and Texas for peace.

        With a slightly growling Chihuahua I saw across the street.

        Or like, a baby kitten that wanted my ball of string.

        You know what? This conversation is concerning me, here, take my Texas, please!

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    Solving a complex geopolitical situation involving two nations at war…in 24 hours. I wonder if he was lying?

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    Ukraine don’t want to give up territory. Russia demands territory to end the war. Trump has offered to resolve this in 24h. The conclusion seems clear: Trump has to offer Russia some parts of the US in exchange for releasing the occupied regions in Ukraine?

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      Ryan is good explaining how military operates, how weapon works, but this is really about predicting what trump will do, and frankly this is much harder to do.

      We talk about common sense, it is a non brainier, as helping Ukraine stop Russia is the most beneficial thing for the US and the West. As he pointed out, Ukraine losing likely will bring war to the rest of the Europe and Taiwan, but trump might not care.

      What worries me is that so far trump never stood up against putin, he insulted many world leaders, but never did that to putin.

      The reason likely is that he was almost bankrupt and putin help him get on his feet, he has a huge debt to him.

      I also link to Anders Puck Nielsen https://youtu.be/gOwjmKMmkV4 he is generally more familiar with strategy and so far was on point in his comments (I also believe Ryan is watching him too). Again, we are trying to predict what trump will do, which is not as easy and his decisions seem to be more about what gives him immediate benefit.

      The absolute worst scenario that could happen is that the NATO collapses. I hope that won’t happen.

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        but this is really about predicting what trump will do

        Trump plays pigeon chess — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.