I have to admit, my corner of tumblr seems remarkably passive about this past week. No freaking out, no mad panic, no “it’s the end of the world”

Just “meh” and “so lets move on and do what we need to do”

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    I too am old enough to remember Bush, and honestly… I think this person is seriously underestimating how much more dangerous the Republicans have gotten in the intervening time.

    Bush had nothing remotely close to the project 2025 agenda, and Bush didn’t have a supreme court willing to tell him that he was literally above the law.

    Bush was terrible, no doubt about it, and the people who’ve been trying to rehabilitate him can fuck off forever. But Trump, and the version of the Republican party behind him, are so much worse.

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      You are correct. Honestly fuck every person who downplays trump. People downplayed him into the Whitehouse twice now and everything you pointed out proves them wrong as fuck.

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      Bush at least had respect for the institution of the President and the Constitution. This fool respects nothing and no one.

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        Guantanamo Bay is still open.

        There are still prisoners there, held for nearly a quarter of a century without trial.

        Please – Tell me again how he respects The Constitution, democracy and isn’t a fascist.

        Or are you only scared because they are coming after white folks now?

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      Bush was also before the Tea Party split. Those are the crazies that left the Republicans and came up with people like Ted Cruz. Then they rejoined the Republican party and threw them much further right, as we’ve seen with the Maga movement.

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    Bush was terrible but wasn’t embracing fascism. He never had a project 2025 plan to kill democracy.

    This isn’t your daddy’s nightmare here, this situation is much, much worse and I think this poster is very much understimating that here.

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      Ah how time sands away the rough edges of our memories.

      Bush created an illegal prison to hold “suspected terrorists” indefinitely without charges or trials. Bush had literal CIA black sites around the world for the explicit purpose of evading US law. Bush had a legal memo drafted for the explicit purpose of instituting a torture program. Can I get an Abu Ghraib up in here? Mass surveillance of Americans, Bush invented the Patriot act and fisa warrantless taps! So many chestnuts like “Your either with us or with the terrorists” “See something say something” as an explicit way to turn Americans against each other, to compel loyalty to death leader or else be labeled a terrorist. Speak out against Bush’s lies about the Iraq war, well how about an administration official leaks to the NYT blowing the cover of your spy wife to put her in danger as revenge, and then pardon the fucker who did it? To say nothing about getting Medicare, opposition to lgbtq rights, no child left behind bullshit, voter restrictions, and I can’t just not give a big what’s up to Hurricane Katrina! Fuck the “unitary executive” theory is a Bush era creation. That’s just the stuff I personally remember, without even looking up a greatest hits list of Bush shit.

      Oh yeah, Bush wasn’t even elected the first time! The conservative supreme court in a 5-4 opinion installed him!

      Trump is the first president not to accept the results of an election, to undermine democracy directly. I’ll give you that, and in some ways he’s a very unique threat in that way. But he is not the first president to stretch presidential authority, to abuse his power, to break democratic norms, to stomp on civil rights, etc. We’re talking here about Bush, but don’t forget Nixon and Reagan also existed!

      Yes this is bad, maybe uniquely bad, but one thing we have going for us is Trump and the people around him are highly incompetent. That was not true in the Bush years. We can fight him and we can defeat Trumpism. So long as elections happen, we can stop the worst of Trump. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the country that reelected Bush even after all that shit, turned around 4 years later and elected a progressive (by the days standards) black candidate with the middle name huessain, and voters did it by a landslide. It took a lot of work to get there, but we as a country did it before and can do it again. There is hope.

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      The only differences there are between Bush and Trump are that Bush succeeded in stealing an election and was smart enough to try to hide his evil shit and soften it with Orwellian language instead of crowing about it from the rooftops.

      The danger is more that the systems that resisted Bush’s fascism have been weakened, namely the Supreme Court.

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    Beyond idiotic.

    This is nowhere near comparable. It’s not even the same scale.

    I really do wonder to what degree people are saying stuff like this to numb themselves because it’s horrible and it feels like there’s no winning moves.

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    Fuck this downplaying bullshit. I wish it was just a matter of fighting our way out of it but it’s not. We are fucked. Too many ways to list.

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    Until climate change puts us out of our misery.

    Either life on earth dies or the billionaires get their mad max hellscape to rule over. Human rights won’t really be anyone’s priority, then.

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    Personally, I’ve been buckled down for the last 3 years already fighting to win my union and get our first contract. I’m in the same camp as the folks you see on tumblr. To me, he’s just one more billionaire to crush.