• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    So guilliani is gonna be bailed out, Vince McMahon is gonna get a pardon too, same with Elon for whatever he wants to do, and pretty much every evil billionaire out there. I also think Trump has no interest in governing, and this administration will be Vance and his project 25 people running the show

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      Can he get Joe exotic Pardoned so at least we get some entertaining train wreck to keep our long off the politics?

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    It’s 80 degrees in November. America has reelected a climate change denier. SUV sales continue to rise.

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    4 more years? Nah. 6 months before they turf him.

    This’ll be a Vance presidency.

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      They wouldn’t need to bother. High risk for relatively little benefit over him nominally being in the position.

      If they are going to sideline him in practice, I’d expect more of a Dick Cheney. It’s not like he’s going to stand in the way as long as he gets personally enriched/protected.

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    What devil has this guy made a deal with? No matter how stupid, obnoxious or abrasive he is, people worship him. He constantly screws himself over and then before he has to face serious consequences he trips on a rock and somehow everything’s alright again for him. At this point he literally can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and get away of it. I think Trump is solid evidence that we’re living in a simulation and somebody is fucking with us, because life just doesn’t work the way it works for him. Somebody’s thumb is on the scale.

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      What devil has this guy made a deal with?

      He cut a Faustian Bargain with the soul of America. And like Faust, he gets to spend his days capering and clowning about his social superiors, making unholy mischief in a kingdom that is itself revealed to be terminally corrupt and wholely damned.

      Trump took the Objectivist philosophy that’s guided this country for a generation and embodied it. He is Reaganism in its manifest state. Just a guy entirely out for himself who has convinced 71M other people to do the same.

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          I always knew it was possible for right-wing populism and proto-fascism to take hold in America. A society that seems itself immune and superior is especially susceptible.

          But I honestly didn’t think it would be a complete idiot like Trump. A wannabe dictator is supposed to be charismatic. His ramblings couldn’t invigorate a chicken coop. And yet it seems people are so desperate for his ilk that not even that’s an issue.

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      The day after he was convicted on his 30+ felonies, he had the biggest donation day of any politician in US history, probably Human history. Jeff Bezos prevented any news outlet he owned of endorsing Harris, Elon Musk Did a million dollar raffle for Trump voters. They DO NOT WANT to pay taxes, and they DO NOT want to pay people who make their money. That’s all this has ever been, and they know Trump would fuck his mothers corpse for a nickle and will absolutely shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class as hard as he can, and he has a majority in the legislature, and full stop OWNS the most extreme and corrupt Supreme Court we’ve ever seen, and he will stack it even higher this term. It is a GREAT time to be a corrupt politician in America, no one is going to taste a single consequence for this fuckery.

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        Yeah I know he got help from various billionaires, but Mr. and Mrs. Middle America ignored stuff that goes against their own character. Most people don’t associate with anybody who’s on trial for multiple felonies. They disapprove of guys who cheat on their wives. They would frown on a grown man saying “grab 'em by the pussy.” Trump is not a person decent churchgoing Americans normally idolize - let alone pastors and ministers. He has an uncanny charm with these people, which I chalk up to his con man ability. But even a con man loses his audience when he drops pretense and acts like an asshole. The Orange Sack of Shit seems unnaturally immune to that.

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      A friend on FB asked his friends why they voted for Trump. One woman responded 'because he loves all of us and wants nothing more than to make our lives better."

      What. The. Actual. Fuck?

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        Yeah I think that’s the core problem - too many Americans have shit for brains. Either they develop a religious faith in a con man or they petulantly cross their arms because nothing on the menu is good enough. Pure stupidity either way.

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        Putin didn’t GAF about Donald Trump until he became useful enough. By that time the Orange Sack of Shit had already been stiffing creditors and skirting the law for decades, somehow living a life of abject luxury anyway, when if nature had taken its usual course he would have been a bankrupt nobody hustling $10 bar bets.

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      JD Vance is a more effective stooge, because he does what he’s told without question. Trump at least has his particular brand of self-defeating chaos.

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    I have to remind myself that the only silver lining of being Californian and unable to really effect this outcome of this race is that we’re also least likely to pay any personal consequences. Still bad, but I feel for people in states with less protections for LGBTQ and immigrants, and especially for people in countries that are completely fucked right now unless something crazy happens.

    I know already that my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back. Then again, might make little difference if he goes full fascist, but a silver lining is a silver lining none the less.

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      Over here in Florida where they’re banning books and censoring LGBT from schools. All my family (besides my parents and siblings) are Republicans and are actively voting to the person who is trying to legalize murdering me (trans, closeted) 🙃
      My teacher is also an anti masker.
      Send help pls.

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        When you’re 18, you’re more than welcome in the New Mexico/Colorado coalition. New Mexico is more affordable, FYI. Until then, there are good people on Lemmy you can lean on.

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        I noticed that… Redder than ever as I watched the polls. I guess at least it’ll be under the ocean in a few decades. Amazing how it changed since 2000, though. My PhD is in education policy, and also someone who dated a trans woman, I know exactly how fucked y’all are.

        If only California could fix it’s housing issues, we really should be a refuge for cool folk like yourself. People used to flock here, for better or worse.

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            It’s true. Some places are affordable but won’t be terribly enjoyable unless a lot of progressives move there (like Bakersfield isn’t the worst place in the world).

            Edit: on two separate occasions I saw cars wrapped in full anime weeb regalia parked in places in Bakersfield. It’s just mostly immigrant farm workers, though.

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      …my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back.

      Can you expand on this, in eli5 fashion? Curious foreigner here.

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        As they said, money, but I’d say there are a few safeguards. On obvious issues like reproductive rights, we can hold out on “states decide” until there’s a federal ban, and even longer with legal challenges. States that rarified it in their construction have a similar setup. We also have organizations in place to help undocumented immigrants so much so that they can get drivers licenses and insurance, etc.

        As for things specific to Trump, it’s mostly a matter of having a lot of lawyers ready to challenge things and purposefully not following federal law if needed. 4 years is a remarkably short time to hold out, assuming again they don’t just go full fascist and arrest our governor and state Congress. Technically shouldn’t be possible even with the supreme court but who knows.

        Speaking of which, that’s the real problem-- federal appointed judges. So all together we’ll just have to see. States rights is a good thing when you’ve got a good state, though.

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        Oh that part’s easy.

        Money.

        California has economic power over the rest of the US because of the money that flows through it.

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      Still bad, but I feel for people in states with less protections for LGBTQ and immigrants, and especially for people in countries that are completely fucked right now unless something crazy happens.

      Your state just voted to keep slavery btw.

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        I heard. We weren’t immune to the low turn out, and if anything we had a lot more protest votes since we’re a “safe blue” state. Actually I’m much more concerned about how it impacts some house races. We might be a bit screwed, and lazy Californians might be why.

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    There is a saying…

    Make a mistake once and you can call it learning, make a mistake twice and you are eh… not so smart

    Americans need education.

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      Either party was going to do that, unfortunately. But this is definitely worse with Putin being invited to take the VIP seat at the table.

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    Time and time again I remember this meme

    Basically democracy is government after the people, by the people, for the people . . . but people are retarded . . .

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    I’m from the other side of the world, and when I was a kid, we were taught the story of Abraham Lincoln in school… how he never gave up. Lincoln grew up poor, his business failed, his wife died, and he lost elections again and again. But finally, he became the president. So, what lesson do we learn from this, kids? - like that.

    Now it feels like we’ll be teaching kids about Trump—34 felony counts, 6 bankruptcies, 2 impeachments, 1 violent insurrection, and a couple dozen rape accusations… but hey, he didn’t give up either! xD

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      As an aside how was the fact he used to fight bears for fun not in a school book? You want engagement tell them Abraham Lincoln used to drop haymakers on bears for fun.

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    Our embassy would be calling for our citizens to leave USA now if not the pesky international relations.

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    Is it too early to start talking about the abysmal failure of the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” strategy?

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      Lets discuss the “we’re really Republicans, so you Republicans should really vote Harris who will now ignore all leftists who intended to vote for her until they feel like shit and stay home instead of electing her!” strategy Harris tried to use just like Hillary tried to use that also entirely fucked up her voter base because the Dems DON’T want to vote for a Republican in disguise, and SHOCK the Republicans DO NOT CARE if you are 100% identical to their candidate, or ever MORE of a Republican than their candidate they are playing sport politics, they would elect a child molester, convicted felon, calling for ethnic cleansing, and removing all human rights of Women, they DON"T FUCKING CARE! They have no idea what politics, policy, or governance even is, they just want to WIN! Go RED Team!!

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        Note that the strategy of courting conservatives didn’t move the needle even an inch. She got the exact same percentage of votes from registered republicans as Biden did, and it cost her millions of votes. And yet Democrats are already busy setting up the narrative how this is the fault of unelectable left-wing politics (lmao) and they need to move even further right. It’s sickening.

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    i don’t think posts about him are appropriate here. the kind of dystopia wants to bring is not the boring kind. it’s straight up cartoonish shit, like the government from v for vendetta