• 5redie8@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    Warm regards to those communities and users commenting the “both bad” mantra for months. Going to be a whole lot of surprised pikachus today

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      15 days ago

      Oh yeah, but no surprised Pikachu face when the Democrats use the exact same strategy that cost them the election in 2016 and lose doing it in 2024, right? That was really good and smart, huh?

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        15 days ago

        This, Harris wouldn’t even lie about helping poor and marginalized people for fear of alienating that oh so coveted moderate Republican demographic.

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          Yep.

          You are 100% right here. Courting R was possibly the worst thing they could have done. I refuse to believe that the outcome would have been worse had they instead embraced progressive domestic policies AND ALSO taken a tougher stance on Israels Gaza genocide.

          I’m not even engaging with the Genocide-Joe commenters on this particular issue anymore, they think they changed something for the better today but god knows what. I felt and continue to feel that they threw out the baby with the bathwater. I don’t think the Gaza issue did this though. I think it was the immediate rebranding as Republican-lite that Kamala tried, beginning roughly 30 seconds after she announced her candidacy. It earned her nothing with the R vote, and alienated Democrats at multiple points on the spectrum.

          And Democrat leadership can go fuck themselves for never having the courage to move left and stand by it.

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        15 days ago

        Listen, the dems have to seig heil in all their ads to entice white moderate centrist suburban women in 2028.

        Now shut up and vote for 99% hitler, do you want Trump to win his third term?

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            Zero, and that’s why the dems lost. Progressive policy is popular, republican policy from 2016 is not.

            The dems are fucked until they do the things that get their base energized and going to the polls instead of triangulating themselves 2 inches to the left of the republican candidate to try to get the 2-5% of republicans who prefer diet-fascism to fascism.

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                Seats were lost because the presidential election is what brings people out to vote. ~15% of the electorate stayed home because they saw a choice between the 2016 republican and a dem with the 2016 republican platform. The down-ballot races suffered as well as a result.

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                    15 days ago

                    Yes, it’s a shame the democrats ran on building a wall to keep immigrants out and tax cuts for small businesses.