It just doesn’t stop baffling me how quickly the Afghan army folded to these people and accepted this as their future… just tragic all around
I keep thinking the same thing. When it was all happening, I kept thinking that maybe the frontline troops were green and just in shambles but surely they had real troops in the ranks that would step up. It turns out they had like one group of real troops and that was it.
The majority of the troops we trained were ex-taliban. Everyone knew it. The one thing that most people don’t understand is that Afghanistan isn’t really a country like most other countries, it’s just a shit load of tribes, they have no national interest. So they don’t care what happens halfway across the country.
From what I learned from RealLifeLore’s video (YT or nebula) is that a major factor was that they were still a bit tribal, one city’s guard didn’t want to lose their lives for the next city/area
I’ve heard this explanation before as well, that essentially nobody felt any loyalty to the national government. You could kind of tell why when the whole government just evacuated the country when the west left.
That’s so heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the level of isolation it would feel to be a woman under Taliban rule.
Something you would expect from them.
A senior Taliban official told The Telegraph of frustration from moderates with the more hardline elements of the regime.
“Someone should stop the supreme leader. Many within the Taliban are angry and worried that, with everything the leadership is doing, we could lose Afghanistan as quickly as we took it,” he added.
“They are worried that as soon as an alternative to the Taliban appears, the people will revolt, and the West will bomb us again,” the official explained.
I don’t know if any country is eager to return after the failures of Russia and the US. The worry about another warlord type offering even a few lost freedoms back though absolutely seems like a valid concern though to the current regime.
Hey Taliban… if you’re a woman and you’re in a tiled room and you say something and you hear your echo, does that count?
Sorry Afghan woman, Americans don’t give a shit about you unless the news tells them to. The murderous Americans are busy moralizing about someone else right now.
What’s your geopolitical cure for this? What foreign/military policy change from the U.S. government would sit well with you regarding this issue? I’m interested to hear it.
Should the US invade Afghanistan again?
Because as an American, I care very much, but I’m reluctant to go over to Afghanistan and fight an armed insurgency against the Taliban without an imminent NATO re-invasion planned after what will likely have to be months of guerrilla warfare to free the women of Afghanistan.
Oh wait, I remember now, “Americans dumb, ha ha.”
Are you suggesting that a new coalition goes back to Afghanistan to throw out the Taliban again? Remember how popular that was last time?
Yeah just leave em then, fuck those women. You guys only react according to fads
I didn’t say that. I’m pointing out that we spent shitloads of money that could have gone to out own schools and healthcare, and a dozens of young soldiers lives (I’m not American), and we were clearly told by both the local population and a bunch of other countries to fuck off.
So yes. I’ll say it. Fuck em. We don’t owe them shit. We came down there, suppressed the Taliban, built s schools and hospitals, and secured elections, and when we left, the Afghan army, which we had trained and supplied, folded immediately.
We can’t be held responsible for them not revolting against a suppressive regime. We gave them all the tools to keep the taliban out, but they chose to fold. That’s on them.
It’s tragic, but that’s how it is. If they’re not willing to fight for their own rights, they won’t get to enjoy them.
