After a day and several replies from people. I’ve come to the conclusion that people here are ok with their party and leaders supporting genocide and they attack the questioners (instead of their party leaders) who criticize those who support genocide. Critical thinking is scarce here.

I’m shameful of humanity.

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    I too have a nuanced opinion about my voting options and a strong contempt for candidates who talk down to people who are right.

    I’m still voting Harris because the only other option wants to see people like me hanged.

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      Wouldn’t it be much better if no-one gets hanged or genocided? Wouldn’t it be much better if democrats listen to young voters and stop supporting/funding genocide?

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        Wouldn’t it be much better if no-one gets hanged or genocided?

        Have you got a way to make that happen?

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          Have you got a way to make that happen?

          “If we all clap our hands and believe really hard, the majority of the electorate will come around to our thinking inside of the next month!”

          I don’t know why we weren’t doing that BEFORE a few weeks before election day. Apparently it’s only viable when there’s a serious risk of fascism. I’m sure these people aren’t just trying to get their favorite fascist in office.

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          Have you got a way to make that happen?

          Yes, that’s what our demand is from the democrat representatives that they should include our demand and stop supporting/funding genocide. (people demand in a democratic nation) If they can save large number of people from getting hanged then they can also stop facilitating genocide. Instead genociders are welcomed to give speeches in U.S. congress.

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              PugJesus, I am just asking democrats to not support/fund genocide. That’s it.

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                And you have no plan to get them to agree to such a demand that doesn’t amount to “If we don’t vote and allow fascists to win, this will somehow be a moral victory for anti-genocide”

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                  We sent posts, emailed the representatives, filed cases, protested (campuses and other places), protested in both major parties rallies. Bernie tried to pass bill to stop funding of genocide. But who listens to Bernie, no one.

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        And how do you propose for that to realistically happen? Because Trump wants to see entire groups of people dead in this country, deport Muslims, and also turn the entire Middle East into a sheet of glass using nukes.

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          Myxomatosis, listen man. We do support the democrats on topics when they talk about respect and inclusivity of minorities in society but we also demand that they should not support/fund genocide. It’s our demand from democrat leaders. Is it a wrong demand? You should tell me.

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            I understand your frustrations. But I refuse to throw my vote away and help Trump. He is an existential threat. My vote isn’t so much for Harris/Walz as it is a vote against Trump.

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        Wouldn’t it be much better if no-one gets hanged or genocided?

        Wouldn’t it be much better if we lived in a world where asking “Wouldn’t it be much better” magically made complicated and unrealistic things happen. You didn’t even bother to write a decent response, you just jumped straight into a whataboutism.

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        Y’all are seriously downvoting the “maybe we shouldn’t spend over $22bn a year on weapons used to genocide” post? That really highlights OP’s point.

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    Is it too much to ask for a meme template that doesn’t DIRECTLY contradict your message?

    Or did you mean to imply that single-issue anti-gaza-slaughter voters are the equivalent of star wars criticts being properly annoyed by folk who like melodramatic space opera?

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    1. Democrats cut off funding.
    2. Israel keeps genociding because they don’t need our help to shoot Palestinian kids in the head.
    3. Israel-Pac funds Republicans.
    4. Republicans win.
    5. Republicans accelerate the Genocide over there.
    6. Republicans revoke US Citizenship of Gaza protestors here, imprison them in detention camps with other “undesirables”, just like Israel did with Gaza.
    7. Republicans declare war on Mexico and invade to set up a security zone, just like Israel did with Lebanon.
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    regardless of the genocide(that has been going on for the last 20 election cycles), if you are undecided about the right choice in the 2024 US election, you’re ignorant, selfish or spoiled.

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      If you are democrat leader then you’ve the chance to win the votes of young, undecided voters by not funding or supporting genocide. You should know that if they vote for third parties in large numbers, then you are in great trouble. Those votes are valuable. Accept our demands and take the vote.

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        the democrats are already winning the votes of young and decided voters.

        they’re the party of personal Liberty, sustainable technology, international cooperation, climate change, minority representation, they’re doing fine on popular progressive issues.

        what are you saying is based on a false premise.

        also, third party voting is fine. it is what voting actually is supposed to be, as it is in most countries.

        you vote for the candidate that most aligns with your values.

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          If the democrats will ignore our demands and continue their support and funding of genocidal regime then they will lose this election.

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            the democrats are doing great, especially after the resounding success at the debate.

            there is plenty of counter evidence against your whining.

            The democrats have a huge following, also, importantly, this is an election.

            they could lose anyway. That’s what an election is.

            If you want to vote for a third party, go for it, that is how voting works.

            given that Harris has already pushed forward momentum on basically every major progressive policy for the past 4 years, you’d be an idiot not to vote for harris and walz if you care about people at all.

            “If the democrats will ignore our demands…”

            you draw lazy memes and have no valid arguments. it doesn’t sound like you really care about anything.

            nobody cares about your pretension.

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              You seem very happy with this democrat government. But would you start hating them if they include policy like ending support/funding of genocide?

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                that would be good also.

                It’s good you finally learned about the Palestinian genocide, but threatening to let conservatives further mangle the country when you have a progressive alternative is selfish and incredibly narrow-minded.

                stopping the US from sending weapons will not stop Israel.

                they are a third party with plenty of international support and funding that is under no obligation to listen to the US.

                The US can stop sending bombs tomorrow, they could have stopped sending bombs months ago and Israel’s military would atill be fully prepared to continue this war as long as they want to, regardless.

                you are shooting yourself and everybody around you in the foot for rhe privilege of eating night soil by voting against harris.

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                  I think supporting/funding genocide shouldn’t be democratic party policy, it would suit more on far-right. But reality is different. Even after thousands of posts, emails to representatives, cases in court, protests in campuses and rallies. Democrats are eager to support/fund a genocide.

                  Democratic party has become a far-right party.

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      distantsounds, Not supporting genocide is a controversial take here.