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    I was something like $250 over the annual income threshold to qualify for Medicaid for my first son’s birth. My employer was “kind” enough to allow me unpaid time off long enough to get me under the threshold, but having an “all or nothing” threshold just to qualify was a little frustrating.

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      It is ridiculous that assistance programs are all or nothing. No, it is moronic. It damn near acheives the opposite of its intended purpose, to be a safety net or lift up so people can get back on their feet and prosper. Instead, it incentivizes people to remain poor if they can’t manage a big enough jump in income to make up for the loss of assistance. You can pick up an extra shift here and there, or get a modest raise, and end up LOSING income as a result. That’s absurd.

      Those programs should gradually taper such that when you make more income at work, you always also still net more income overall. Past a certain point, instead of dropping to nothing, the assistance lowers gradually the more you make from other income. Progress is a bit slowed that way, but it is still progress, not a pit.

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        Instead, it incentivizes people to remain poor

        As is intended. They know what they’re doing. The system didn’t end up like this on accident. Poor people are easy to control, and easy to exploit.

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          If a fisherman is paid to catch fish, and a dolphin gets caught in the net and dies, is the fisherman’s purpose to kill dolphins?

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        The hardest time my wife and I had financially was when we were escaping poverty. We made 2K to much the year my first son was born to qualify for any government assistance. My wife’s main memories of when he was first born was of the endless stream of bill collectors calling in to demand payment. We were buying diapers instead of paying them.

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          Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m a new father myself. I have a beautiful 6 month old girl, and even without the financial troubles, it’s a lot of work, worry, and stress. Having to skrimp and save every dollar for your kid’s basic needs on top of that is horrible. And there’s no reason for it. No reason someone in your situation shouldn’t have been helped. I’m sorry you had to go through that, but you made the right call on how to priorize your money. The kid comes first, right? I hope you guys are in a better situation now.

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            That was 20 years ago. We have clawed out way out of poverty and held onto it by the skin of our teeth at times. It was not easy and still isn’t but we have mostly made it.

            However it’s always just step away from falling back down. One layoff due to “market conditions” and soon enough they try to shove you down in that hole.

            Like the layoff notification I got this morning, yep one of those can we meet e-mails at 7am…

            Jokes on them though, I saw this one coming 6 months ago and set myself up to take all of the suppliers and customers for my division. Hopefully by the end of the week I will have everything on-line.

            I am currently laying here going holy fuck, I am really going to do it…

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        My mom decided to gradually start working a while back, she’s on all the government assistance programs you can think of and after years of that decided she wanted some financial independence.

        She worked part time for like 3 months at a seasonal holiday place and made something like $2.5k. It was great, she was planning on doing it again the next year and seeing what she could do on the summer. She was happy, more of a person, made some friends.

        The only problem is with that extra $2.5k she lost like $6k in benefits the next year, which for someone getting a couple hundred bucks a month to surving is a lot. So she never went back and fell back into a semi reclusive state. I can’t blame her for it either, who wants to go to work to lose money at the end of the day.

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      It was the same for a friend and the ACA, didn’t make enough for subsidies and made too much to qualify for Medicaid.

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      Just get married again after the kid is born. Problem solved!

      In the saddest, most depressing, way possible 😞

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    As if the state doesn’t heavily financially encourage marriage and having kids.

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    My wife and I have had this conversation trying to get services for our son with autism. I make too much to qualify for anything, but my companies insurance sucks so bad that I end up paying thousands out of pocket each month.

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    I know in Germany it’s easier for a father when you are married but I think it’s getting easier for unmarried fathers from year to year.

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      I believe Sweden has the best paternity leave for both parents. 3 years for each and they have an excellent healthcare system compared to the dumpster fire in the USA.