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    He likely could’ve won as a presidential candidate but you’re so sure it’s not even worth questioning that just his stink would completely destroy Harris’s chances.

    I have zero clue what it would be like to be that sure of anything. The confidence you people have in ideas you can’t possibly be sure of is…alarming.

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      Of course I have confidence because I take emotions out of it. Democrats are a better alternative to Trump and Republicans, but if you make excuses for your party all the time cause you’re so emotionally invested then you completely lose touch with the reality of what a lot of voters care about, which is honesty & values. Democrats can’t win against Trump saying how terrible he is by acting more like Trump.

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        I would argue that overconfidence specifically results from being overly emotional and not knowing how to deal with it.

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          I’ve been saying Biden will drop out for weeks because his debate performance was an eye-opening experience about how much his campaign had been lying and propping him up, and all the polls showed it. Within the first day or two he should have went on multiple live press interviews if he still had his wits about him. He couldn’t do it. He ran and hid and then did select interviews where his team even provided the questions for the radio hosts to ask, and he still struggled.

          I was called a Trump supporter, a fascist, and even banned from at least one community here on Lemmy. I was consistently downvoted for even expressing any negative opinion about Biden. The behavior was more like I was being attacked by a cult of followers, similar to what was being said about Trump supporters.

          Biden dropped out. I was right and they were wrong. I wasn’t in the cult. So, if you want to be or stay in a cult, then go right ahead. I’m not going to stop you.

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            You’re delusional. I’ve seen not one person destroyed by him dropping out. That would be cult behavior. Everyone seems to have accepted it even if they initially didn’t think he should drop.

            And it’s kinda funny your argument here is you were “right” once so from now on you will be.

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              Democrats have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot an then blame their voters. Biden, “you’re not black unless you vote for me.”

              If you want to keep shooting yourself in the foot, be my guest. I’d rather talk about innovative ideas for improvement. That is how Democrats can get voters. I’ll speak my mind about things if I think you’re wrong, but I’m not always right either. I do admit when I was wrong about things.

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                you’re not black unless you vote for me

                That isn’t what he said. What he said was awkward but that’s COMPLETELY irrelevant here.

                Back to what we were actually talking about here. You are certain what political moves will and won’t be winning and I said I can’t imagine thinking I knew anything with such certainty. Then you told me I’m in a cult because you’re certain you know how I think, which you absolutely don’t. I think this went off the rails a bit.

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                  I don’t know who the best candidate is to beat Trump. I just know that they can’t coronate Kamala without having her do at least a couple debates with another Democrat to show she’s the strongest candidate. Otherwise, they might as well kept Biden cause she may actually get less votes. She might go to speak and then just repeat “what can be, unburdened by what has been.” Or she may act goofy in a foolish and cringy way.

                  I don’t know if you’re in a cult, and the fact that you’re trying to have a discussion still indicates that you probably aren’t. I’m not going to go search through your comment history to find out your reactions prior to Biden dropping out to see if you were calling 66% of Democrats saying he should drop out fascists, Trump supporters, or Russian bots.

                  Biden is done, and so IMO the best thing Democrats can do is to move on for now. The time to remunerate is after November.