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      Same. This place is great, even with the tankies from lemmy.ml and the fascists from hexbear, at least we somehow still get along.

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        Not all of us are tankies fwiw, I just wanted to be on the largest and most well-supported instance with generally the least amount of downtime.

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        What’s the deal with having a .world user complain about ml and hexbear in every single thread lately?

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          It’s crazy. Almost like we all have the freedom to say whatever the fuck we want, including complaining, because we fucking can.

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    It’s sad how many docile idiots remained on Reddit and Twitter after last year.

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      People still use AOL internet. I expect Reddit and twitter to die sometime in the 2050s.

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        Not just AOL Internet, but also the email service. Same for Hotmail. I used to work at iHeart, and the number of those email services (from prize winners) was not insignificant.

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          Hotmail was owned by Microsoft when I signed up in the late 90s. It’s no surprise it’s still around. It hasn’t been my primary email for a long time, but I still use it as my MS account. So really it’s just my Minecraft account.

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        I missed the part where Aol. was promoting toxicity and hate while attempting a short-term grift on its users like Reddit and X have.

        That fact that Aol. is still alive is amazing by itself. It’s just another sleazy, beleaguered company that used to be meaningful. You leave because other companies have better products, not because they offend your sense of morality.

        (Or maybe they do.)

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          I think you underestimate how ignorant people can be. The reason Aol still exists is because they are grifters too. My Aol example was to show that people are docile idiots and won’t change their habits. Aol is grifting just as much as reddit does. They’re just grifting different groups in different ways.

          That’s why i think reddit and twitter will continue on for a long time. Maybe not as powerhouses but they won’t implode or go away any time soon.

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      There are a lot of subreddits for which there is no real replacement. Sometimes the strength in a community is the people. Doesn’t matter if reddit sucks if the people are there.

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      I don’t know, I feel during that exodus we got the best of the best. I miss some of the niche communities, But there’s so many fewer assholes over here.

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    It’s amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit’s investors can make more money.

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    A friend and I were recently discussing how spineless modern boycotts are.

    We set a goddamn deadline for when the Reddit boycott ended. No wonder Spez just waited. Most people then just continued using the website. What a disgrace.

    Imagine if after one week of the genocide in Gaza, the BDS efforts just stopped. A boycott must be indefinite. It should go on until demands are met.

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    so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you’re a leader. but they’re better than the alternative. that’s the whole point.

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      In favor of what is the problem. In Lemmy half the instances have defederated from half the others.

      People use Reddit because there’s only one Reddit. Coming to such a center is human nature, while Fediverse architecture is someone’s strategy. Changing your strategy is simpler than changing human nature.

      If we drop the tech religion part of the subject, NOSTR moderated communities are a very good thing as a global, not per-instance, Reddit alternative. You can clearly see that its core idea is chosen by people who are more confident with human psychology than with tech. And it’s good for that very reason. It’s an ugly real solution.

      Except all clients suck balls and there’s nothing to see there yet.

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        True, the fediverse is poor. But Reddit is the bottom of the barrel in its current state.

        Best to waste time watching paint dry to be honest

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      What? and lose THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROTEST PLATFORM EVER MADE? I couldn’t imagine what else we would use to teach corporations and politicians a harsh lesson (insert giant eye rolling emoji)

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      I lieu of that, I’d say the mods should just go limp. Stop moderating content and let posters run wild. The company needs to realize just how much their business model depends on all that unpaid labor.

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        I think they realize it but know these mods are addicted to the fake power so they won’t go anywhere no matter what

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      I have to imagine that when some c-level suit saw that term in his moth-eaten copy of “Social Media for Dummies,” I don’t think it was intended to be taken quite so flagrantly visibly literally…

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      So that’s what happened?! I rarely come here, but last weekend was so bad that I started updating my subscribed communities here.

      I thought I interacted with too many downvoted posts, and screwed up what reddit thought were my main interests. Guess I was expecting too much from reddit…

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    At this point I’m more or less done with Reddit. My latest ban was because I posted a screenshot of an ad with a wacky old person comment to r/oldpeoplefacebook. I carefully smudged out the person’s name and profile pic…and got a three-day site-wide ban for sharing personal information. I protested, they said, nope, you shared personal information. All I can figure is they decided the advertiser’s name is personal info, which would make it even more bizarre because I’d say about half the posts have group or advertiser names unedited.

    People they let mod, can end up getting this really bizarre God complex not dissimilar to what you see in university settings, their word goes, questioning their word is a sin and they’ll just double down.

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      I protested, they said, nope

      Protesting on a site that’s fully automated their administration just means getting told “fuck you” twice.

      There’s no real bureaucracy under the hood. It’s just “friend computer says you’re guilty” followed by “friend computer says you’re still guilty plus you had the gall to doubt friend computer’s immaculate wisdom”.

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      Indeed, fuck reddit and their Russian shills. I was permanently banned for commenting about the Russians receiving a dose of their own medicine and I did not use a single swear word.

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      I’ve had almost all my posts on Reddit go up in smoke for one pedantic reason or another. I haven’t posted here much out of that fear but I think it’s much better here.

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      It’s not as bad here but I already ran into having a comment of mine deleted from a sub because I suggested that Peter Molyneux is a scam artist, no longer a developer, if he ever couod be considered one. I didn’t think that was such an outlandish position that it warranted deletion. But it was removed with an exceptionally vague reason and they wouldn’t responded to me asking for an explanation. So how am I supposed to even know when my opinion will offend a tender soul there? My guess is peter Molyneux himself was the mod. Lol

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      My ban was for quoting someone who said a slur so they couldn’t edit their comment after I reported it, and I said as much in my report.

      It’s the moderators, they are dumb as fuck because there’s no consequence because they’re all volunteers. The only thing stupider than the volunteer mods who don’t demand pay, are the people who get hung up on what moderators are doing or not. We should have all stopped taking reddit so seriously a long, long time ago. Protests? Jesus christ, a reddit protest does as much real-world good as a kindergarten protest by the children mad that they can’t get more cookies.

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    I’m not surprised. I’m on this site because I’m sick of being banned on reddit for thinking wrong.

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      What’s really fascinating is how many of the advice communities for certain sexual practices are run by bona fide rapists.

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      Reddit permabanned me. I pissed off too many mods, made too many new accounts, now I guess my ip is caught in their spam filter or something. Crazy thing, I never posted anything offensive. I could be posting about playing GTA and somebody I pissed off in another thread would report me for “advocating violence”, which is an autoban basically.

      Add to that the “your karma is too low” or “your post doesn’t include xyz” shit and the site is becoming unusable.

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      And this is where you went? This is literally Reddit’s bias taken to the level of hyperbole. The extremism groupthink here is the primary reason it hasn’t and likely will never go mainstream.

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        Uhm, the worldnews subreddit is literally the most astroturfed online community I have ever seen in my entire life. Lemmy isn’t great because it still has Redditors on it, but it’s still nowhere near as bad as Reddit.

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        What? Where have you been that you have this kind of opinion? It’s basically the same as reddit: You do have your bubbles, you do have open minded communities, you also have closed minded communities. Your experience is therefore dependend on where you go.

        For example: Joining a vegan server to say “meat is great” will lead to a shitshow. But that’s not supprising and it’s not because Lemmy per se harbors militant people.

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        You are at -20 and I can still read you just fine. On reddit they would have banned you, got you fired from your job and stolen your cat.

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    Reddit is one of the most infiltrated and astroturfed site. I have absolutely no confidence that the leadership are interested in addressing that. When there were suspicions it was anti-US actors, they had to take action because the government would get involved. But we all know that such pressure doesn’t exist for other astroturfing actors, state and private.

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    Moderators will now have to submit a request if they want to switch their subreddit from public to private.

    But do they have to submit a request if they tell the audience “fuck it, this is now a sub about X, we’ll remove everything that’s not about X”?

    …In fact, fuck any particular topic - if the mods approve of it, every subreddit can actually be about whatever people think it should be about, now that we think about it. If the mods don’t do it, will the admins do it? The answer is: Highly unlikely

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    The other option is for all the mods to quit. AI can probably do a lot of basic tasks, but without mods they wouldn’t have a site pretty quickly.

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      Quite a few of the mods are severing alternative interests. The partisan subs are run by literal party staffers and think tanks. Lots of the big brand subs are run by marketing agencies. Reddit’s financial model is to sell these spaces. You don’t just have some random mega-fan running /r/Marvel. That’s a Disney staffer.

      None of these guys are going anywhere.

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      What would these busybodies do with their free time then and how would they obtain a sense of self worth ? They can’t quit, deleting other people from the internet is their whole life.

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      Nobody is going to quit, all mod roles can be replaced in minutes with people excited to do it. If they have to, they can pay them even and make them official employees and never have to worry about protests again.

      Also, who cares, the site has a clock over it, in a few years most users will be bots and children and all content will be farmed slop akin to youtube.

      Furthermore, if anyone thinks that “protests” on reddit accomplish ANYTHING that person is a literal child, or someone else who shouldn’t be trusted to operate heavy machinery.

      Whatever high ideals we had for reddit a decade ago are long-since dead and buried and that’s fine, instead of whinging about what we lost we should be trying to figure out what to build next to maintain some semblance of an internet in an age of AI slop.