Moderates:
Biden has no power, he’s just a president!
Also moderates:
Look at these good things that happened while Biden was in office, he did this!
Biden:
Fuck congress, I’ll go around them if it’s something I want like supporting a genocide or violating human rights at our borders
It’s gotta suck knowing you will still be voting for him in November.
I sure as fuck won’t. If your dog pisses on the floor and you give him a treat the dog’s going to think you wanted to piss on the floor again. That’s exactly what would happen if people re-elect Biden. Either start holding your own politicians accountable or quit punching at the people that are
I hope you enjoy Trump then.
You should have held your politicians accountable and we wouldn’t be in this mess
Likewise.
I don’t have any politicians if you are assuming I’m republican.
Even worse, someone who doesn’t vote.
Biden has made significant progress for the average person during his presidency, which is disheartening given the potential for even greater impact. It seems he knows that simply meeting basic expectations will be enough to outdo previous leaders.
Significant progress is disheartening. Ok.
Tough room.
Lemmy is full of those childish people I met in college.
I suspect it’s also full of foreign agents acting on bad motives. That and children for whom this is their first election, who are caught up on ideals instead of slow and steady progress.
We are now faced with the fact that tomorrow is today. We are confronted with the fierce urgency of now. In this unfolding conundrum of life and history, there “is” such a thing as being too late. This is no time for apathy or complacency. This is a time for vigorous and positive action.
- MLK Jr
Our climate is being destroyed irrevocably, wealth inequality is at record levels, and our corrupt government is completely up for sale and unwilling to represent the people. Corporate-run America is in a death spiral, and geriatric neoliberals are leading the charge. Foreign agents would tell Americans to slowly and steadily continue down this ruinous path as the rest of the world leaves us behind. But red blooded Americans understand how this isn’t sustainable for any length of time. Gradual incrementalism is a far cry from our salvation.
Banning medical debt from credit reports
Negotiating drug prices
He’s only able to do these because he opposes universal healthcare. He wants people to die of lack of access to healthcare (70,000 per year) or lack of insurance (45,000 per year). What do dead people, or people who can’t afford to be diagnosed, or people who can’t afford necessary procedures care about their credit reports or drugs they can’t get prescribed? Why would anyone cheer a horribly policy?
As if the media aren’t congratulating him enough on his “tough red line” for Israel’s genocide that they somehow never break. Ever the victims, Democrats in power are.
Let’s not bash progress in pursuit of perfection. These policies are directly impacting me in the positive, which is more than we could say for the previous president.
Let’s not celebrate inaction on matters that mean life or death to people. None of the above have helped me, or anyone less fortunate than me.
Thus the false internet-leftist is revealed. “Me first!”
As opposed to you who in no way benefit from Biden being re-elected?
Huh? no evidence of that, or opinion on that is described in my comment. Why are you making things up?
I’m focused on the words they used. This isn’t about their opinion on a political candidate, it’s their (in my opinion) flawed, antithetical position on the benefits of the self, not the group.
Candidly, I strongly do not want trump to be president, as I have at risk folks in my family and community.
I want the best available outcome for them, in an otherwise polluted system.
I’m not voting for genocide.
Yeah you are
Did Aaron Bushnell vote for genocide?
He is not a legitimate candidate for president. It’s trump or Biden, no question asked.
You can vote for one or the other, and your non (or third party) vote will have implicit favor, depending on your location, regardless of your intent.
The primaries are over, pick trump or Biden. You get nothin else. Any ideological opinion on the value of voting or nonvoting ( moral or systemic) are moot, as the system is already constrained to 2 outcomes.
Edit if you are not a Christian nationalist, any action you take that does not competitively keep trump out of office is against your interests. If your vote doesn’t matter because you are in a very blue place, you choose nonvoting out of privilege, and therefore put at risk neighbors at risk due to your lax conduct.
He is not a legitimate candidate for president.
He already cast his vote. Answer my question: did he vote for genocide?
The primaries are over, pick trump or Biden. You get nothin else. Any ideological opinion on the value of voting or nonvoting ( moral or systemic) are moot, as the system is already constrained to 2 outcomes.
This is not an ideological choice and this is not frivolous moralism. This is strategic.
If Biden understood that he will lose if he doesn’t end the genocide then he will do anything he has to do in order to stay in power because he’s a politician. It’s plainly obvious that we have already pushed him on this issue and if we stay the course we can force him to capitulate to our demands. The only reason Biden has not already ended his support for the genocide is because of you blue-no-matter-whos doing everything you can to convince his team that he can have his genocidal cake and eat it too.
If we were actually fucking united on this issue he would fold like wet cardboard! If his rallies were filled with protesters instead of blue-no-matter-whos chanting “four more years!” he would understand. He’s not a demon. He’s a politician.
You stopped the uncommitted movement from succeeding. You stopped the campus protests from succeeding. Your fault.
By refusing to stand with us all you are doing is ensuring the genocide will continue, either under Biden or under Trump.
If we were actually fucking united on this issue he would fold like wet cardboard! If his rallies were filled with protesters instead of blue-no-matter-whos chanting “four more years!” he would understand. He’s not a demon. He’s a politician.
This is just naive. Protesting against Biden’s Middle East policies is basically kids threatening to run away from home if their parents don’t buy them what they want.
Of course Biden is never going to say this because, again, he’s a politician and has a public image to keep, but he could literally reply to said protestors “Or else? You gonna let Trump win and do worse? Yeah right, now shut up and vote for me”, and they would have absolutely nothing to answer.
That’s how two-party systems work. You identify the worse outcome and vote for the other one. The only way to force the second-worst party to get better is to force the actual worst one to do it first.
Protesting against Biden’s Middle East policies is basically kids threatening to run away from home if their parents don’t buy them what they want.
They’re grown adults choosing to be violently beaten by cops and vigilantes for their beliefs. Have some fucking respect.
Of course Biden is never going to say this because, again, he’s a politician and has a public image to keep, but he could literally reply to said protestors “Or else? You gonna let Trump win and do worse? Yeah right, now shut up and vote for me”, and they would have absolutely nothing to answer.
You’re contradicting yourself.
He’s a politician and has a public image to keep because he can’t just say shit like that, because he’s not actually invincible. Your cynicism is understandable, you’ve convinced yourself there’s nothing you can do so the guilt doesn’t eat you alive, but the truth is that Biden is vulnerable to public image because he still wants to be reelected. If he really believed that he was going to lose because of his support for genocide then he would change his policies. He can be pushed. You refuse to try because you’re scared.
Meh, you (and I) are in a constrained system. Any other words on choice are fluff.
You’re ascribing emotions to something that has none. You’re ascribing motive to someone you dont even know.
Thus far edit ive only declared I don’t want trump president. You don’t know my choices beyond that.
I don’t want Trump president either, but if Biden does not stop he is going to lose.
And so I have to use the only leverage I have to force Biden to stop supporting and carrying out genocide. If anti-Trump voters actually want to stop Trump then y’all need to understand that Trump is going to win because of the genocide. The people who don’t support genocide will not vote for Biden and the people who love genocide will vote for Trump, it’s lose lose.
We have to force Biden to move on this issue or he’s doomed. It’s not about anyone’s feelings or emotions or what you truly want in your heart. Like I said, this is strategic. We are in a constrained system, this is the only strategy we have.
Or is your plan to help Biden win just to scream at people who won’t vote for genocide?
Because that’s doomed to fail. This is what you are voting for.
Good, don’t vote for Netanyahu
Our bombs. Our jets. Our tanks.
Idiotic take. They all run on gasoline, so therefore clearly Saudi Arabia is to blame! But wait combustion also needs oxygen! It’s the tree’s fault! Don’t vote for the trees!
Israel literally couldn’t get this equipment anywhere else. We’re the only one that could give them the weapons they need.
🤣 🤣 🤣 Riiiiiight we’re the only weapons manufacturer in the world!! Kid, you really have no idea what you are talking about.
Sure, they could get bombs and ammo elsewhere, but we’re the ones with the hardware and we’re also the only country that can supply Israel at the volume they need. No one else can make bombs as fast as the US and Israel’s own officials have openly said this. Also? Where the fuck else are they going to get $18 billion in F-15s? Why don’t you seem to know this stuff?
That doesn’t even get into the way the US has been protecting Israel from Ansar Alla in the Red Sea and has pledged to protect them from Hezbollah if they invade Lebanon.
You’re not in Gaza fighting the IDF, and you aren’t voting for the candidate that will do the most to mitigate The Genocide™, so it seems like you’re actively choosing more genocide. I’ll never understand you genocide enthusiasts, absolutely heartless.
Biden is not mitigating the genocide.
Mitigation is a relative term. Biden’s policies are going a long way to mitigate harm done compared to Trump’s. You may not like it, but that’s reality.
There might not be anyone left in Gaza by the next presidential term.
Genocide will happen no matter how you vote. One option will lead to more genocide than the other. The rest of the options are not options under our current political system. If you do not vote for less genocide, including by not voting at all, you are voting for genocide.
Biden is only choosing to commit genocide because he thinks he can win without my vote because of people like you enabling him, promising to vote blue no matter who. It is your fault that the uncommitted campaign and campus occupations and our voices have failed to push Biden on this issue. I recently listened to Hind Rajab’s call with The Palestinian Red Crescent Society again because of a new documentary on Al Jazeera (“The Night Won’t End”) and I want to fucking die. This is your fault. Own it.
Trump is also choosing genocide because he can hope for people like you not to vote against him.
There won’t be any people in Gaza left to kill by 2025 if Biden doesn’t stop the genocide.
That’s your fault
I voted against him in the primaries and push for ranked choice voting. Unfortunately besides general unrest which will pressure biden but bolster Trump (who is NOW campaigning on crushing us for protesting the state of the war) we are acting too little too late. Maybe general unrest AFTER the election and if cooler heads don’t prevail might actually help.
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There is no “after the election” for the people in Gaza. If this war is ongoing by January they’ll all be dead.
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Biden is already crushing us for protesting the war! Trump is late to the party.
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If choosing the lesser evil still ends up at the most evil act someone can commit, was it ever really lesser evil? Or just slower, easier to ignore evil?
There is no “most evil act”. There is ALWAYS a way to make it worse. We need to take every possible step to make things better. And “better” doesn’t always mean “good”. Sometimes it just means "slightly slower slide to horrifically bad.
Genocide is the Crime of Crimes.
You’re not voting for a president of a country, who has a relationship with another country that acts in its own interests and independence from the rest of the world.
America is not the boss of the world, not the global authority, and no longer a beacon of progress and forward thinking. Israel is its own country, that brought something from another country for its own use. Another country’s decisions are their own - its not America’s fault any more than any other western country or arms producer… weapons aren’t manufactured and sold to be kind.
If the US stopped providing bombs they’d run out of bombs. Israeli officials have literally said this!
All of these things definitely were in the news, of course. They just don’t STAY in the news, and the public memory hole works fast.
Because they’re fucking bread crumbs. What you want us to hold a parade over credit card fees while housing, education, healthcare and food continue to become more expensive and Biden’s cabinet works to suppress wages? Neato.
But they did make headlines, that’s how we know about these. The FTC and FCC doing their job more is good and makes headlines.
It’s good, don’t get me wrong. But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.
Yeah these absolutely made headline / TV news when they passed. No idea what OP means.
But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.
Given that the republiQans retook the house in 2022, what did Biden run on that he hasn’t delivered?
- Freeing Mexican citizens locked in cages at the border, but has in fact increased the numbers according to the ACLU, and now limiting the numbers of who can come in like fascist Trump wanted
- The COVID pandemic is still ongoing, we’re just ignoring it while I’ve had friends die from it after it was “over” according to the CDC. Also removing the 14 day expected leave for it to improve
companies fucking over sick and healthy workers alikethe economy - Roe v Wade being reinstated, for the party that “cares about women’s rights”.
- Minimum Wage increases (Yes Congress is in charge of the purse, but can he say “please fucking do it so everyone has better income?”)
- Ran on trying to stop cops from shooting innocent civilians, but in his first State of the Union said “We don’t need to defund the police, we need to fund the police!” to bipartisan roaring applause. I know he has a fucking cop as a VP, but god damn.
- And he’s not doing anything to stop Project 2025 from getting into place if Trump wins.
- Could maybe consider giving new arms to Ukraine and stop funding explicit genocide in Palestine.
- Didn’t help the unions during the rail strikes give into the demands for better worker safety and benefits, blocking it like how Reagan blocked the FAA from striking for safety and benefits
- Still allows Trump-era expansions of spying agencies, that was made public under “constitutional lawyer and defender” Obama, and instated under Dubya.
But we don’t have the President saying stupid shit on Twitter every day, so I guess that means we’re back to a sane normal, or whatever white cishet liberals need to say to sleep well at night. Ignore the bloodshed of BIPOC and queers, women and their doctors fleeing red states over being arrested for bodily autonomy, and that white nationalists just goosestep freely because its not respectable to tell fascists to fuck off and die, it doesn’t impact you, so it’s all sane politics and electable!
- Freeing Mexican citizens locked in cages at the border, but has in fact increased the numbers according to the ACLU, and now limiting the numbers of who can come in like fascist Trump wanted
Numbers have increased because more people are crossing the border. Biden has initiated several programs to streamline the asylum process and reduce the time people are detained. For example even though unaccompanied minors crossing the border have doubled since the end of Trump’s term, the number of pending asylum cases for minors has decreased.
- The COVID pandemic is still ongoing, we’re just ignoring it while I’ve had friends die from it after it was “over” according to the CDC. Also removing the 14 day expected leave for it to improve
companies fucking over sick and healthy workers alikethe economy
If you thought Covid was ever going away, that’s your mistake. Nothing to do with Biden. Get your vaccine and boosters on schedule and you will be fine.
- Roe v Wade being reinstated, for the party that “cares about women’s rights”.
Congress passes laws, not the president. The Supreme Court wouldn’t let and executive order last a day. Biden did what he could by allowing Mifepristone to be dispensed by pharmacies and sent through the mail.
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- Minimum Wage increases (Yes Congress is in charge of the purse, but can he say “please fucking do it so everyone has better income?”)
He has said that and he did what he could by raising the minimum wage for federal workers.
- Ran on trying to stop cops from shooting innocent civilians, but in his first State of the Union said “We don’t need to defund the police, we need to fund the police!” to bipartisan roaring applause. I know he has a fucking cop as a VP, but god damn.
“Defund the police” as a slogan is just ammo for Republicans. He is right to move away from it. Biden tried to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing act but the Republicans blocked it. He has done a lot more. See below
- And he’s not doing anything to stop Project 2025 from getting into place if Trump wins.
He’s running against Trump. That’s how he is stopping Project 2025. Stop fucking trying to make that fail by repeating lies and propaganda
- Could maybe consider giving new arms to Ukraine and stop funding explicit genocide in Palestine.
You said before that you know Congress has the power of the purse. He cannot do the things you want without Congress voting for it.
- Didn’t help the unions during the rail strikes give into the demands for better worker safety and benefits, blocking it like how Reagan blocked the FAA from striking for safety and benefits
You’re ignoring what Biden did after. He kept pushing for what the union wanted and in the end they got their sick leave. The IBEW that led Biden
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
- Still allows Trump-era expansions of spying agencies, that was made public under “constitutional lawyer and defender” Obama, and instated under Dubya.
It sucks but that is going to happen no matter who is president. At least Biden took action to protect us from foreign spying.
Why is the ACLU suing the Biden administration?
The ACLU is always suing whatever administration is in power. It’s their job.
Ah, you don’t know.
It’s because Biden’s latest border actions are a violation of international law. Restricting asylum seeking by shutting down the border is illegal. The ACLU is suing to stop him from committing a crime against humanity.
Here is the ACLU statement on the lawsuit.
Nowhere does it say it is a “crime against humanity”. Meanwhile the ACLU sued Trump over 400 times.
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-has-filed-400-legal-actions-against-trump-administration
(Note that the say they have sued literally every president since their inception)
So chill the fuck out. There are only two choices for president and one is objectively the better choice for legal management of the border.
But it’s BlUe mAgA which is why I support red maga winning! /s
Break this down for me. I’m an idiot. What are you trying to say?
There’s some dipshits that call Democrats Blue maga in a desperate last ditch effort to bring legitimacy to the notion that “both sides are the same”. Either because they want Trump to win or because they believe they’re an anime protagonist and they can will a third option into being. The /s means I’m sarcastically supporting that notion.
No we call you that because you spend all your energy fighting us instead of working to rid the Democrat party of pro-corporate trash.
instead of working to rid the Democrat party of pro-corporate trash.
So how is that done exactly? By hiring hitmen?
I think a great first step would be to stop spending all your energy lecturing leftists and go after the people who vote for this procorporate trash in the primaries. At the very least it would convince me you’re actually interested in solving the problem and not just trying to get people to kick the can for your benefit.
First, what exactly do you mean by “going after”? Again, do I have to break their legs or what?
And most importantly second, where are those people? Because I’ve seen exactly none on Lemmy or Reddit. I would like to argue with someone who actually thinks Biden deserved the candidacy over others like Bernie, but they’re definitely not here and I wouldn’t even know where to “look” for them. I do what I can on the social I use.
First, what exactly do you mean by “going after”? Again, do I have to break their legs or what?
Lol I love how when I propose this people’s reading comprehension just falls off a cliff. Like they’re going ham on lecturing leftists and young people for their voting habits but super confused about what they could do with moderate voters.
But sure I’ll play along and pretend “go after” wasn’t clear in this context.
Here’s an example: Every time you have the urge to tell a leftist what to do on lemmy immediately log out. Go log into facebook. (Sign up if you don’t have an account). Find some Boomer who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries and tell them that was a stupid decision.
