• ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    So Harris get 200 staffers from Bush, McCain, and Romney. Plus a retired 4-star general, and several former Whitehouse officials who worked for the Trump administration.

    And Trump gets… Tulsi Gabbard, and maybe a couple of other shitheels who pretended to be Democrats.

    Bit of a lop-sided divide there!

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      If you listened to Harris’s acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She’s accepting their endorsements today. And she’s going to start taking their advice tomorrow.

      Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I’m not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” is whispering in the next President’s ear.

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    I am a former Romney staffer (true story) and wholeheartedly support Harris/Walz. But it’s been many years since I left the dark side.

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          I do remember those elections and even voted in them too! Shit has gone WAY DOWNHILL since then.

          I hope when all is said and done in 12-16 years. The democrats are the right wing and there is a new actual left wing.

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            Those guys are/were giant warhawks and neocons, with a direct causal link to the current generation of moron republicans. It is disgusting to see them socially rehabilitated purely because they look so ‘civil’ in comparison to the likes of Trump. Democrats will do anything to keep the left alienated.

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      Because of who she’s running against.

      That’s it.

      If you don’t understand this then I can’t help you.

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        They’re suffering from the ML. They know why they should. But more than anything they’re anti west. They’ll hypocritically endorse those doing the exact things they critique the west of. As long as they aren’t perceived as Western.

        Once you understand that. All the nutty self contradictory things make perfect sense.

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            You are posting from an ml domain. And regardless of what you posted here I’ve seen you posting elsewhere. It’s not like this is the first time I’ve bumped into you.

            That said. You and I can agree on being anti-Xi. That’s great. But you do realize that he’s no one special. He is a symptom himself. Not the problem himself. Just like Mao Lennon Stalin Etc. Just like Reagan Bush Clinton Reagan Trump Etc adnauseam and on and on and on. Capitalism and leninism / Maoism are the problem. Like I said I’m not a hypocrite. Just a self-deprecating anti authoritarian anarchist.

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              I’m not a hypocrite. Just a self-deprecating anti authoritarian anarchist.

              Now THERE’S a song lyric!

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                  It freaked me out 20 years ago when American Idiot was just…pop music. Not because they’d changed their style, but because how do you rebel when you’ve become the stadium selling establishment?

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                  That’s unfortunately not the right question for the situation the US is facing.

                  The US election is a binary choice, so there is nothing that matters other than understanding which administration would make the process worse, and doing whatever is needed to keep them out of power.

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              Oh yeah. Forgot. There’s no other issues at play in a country half the world away.

              We (the US) are absolutely complicit in this atrocity. Thing is, we’re good at it and kind of used to it by now. Also, of note, we’re not the ones actively doing the killing. So we can’t vote and fix it. Best we can do is vote for a person who might fix it. Maybe. If every political issue aligns. But first duty is a vote to make sure I can vote again in the future.

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                We provide the weapons and financial aid with no strings attached, so we are absolutely complicit

                Harris isn’t going to fix it. She gave Netanyahu the luxury of a private meeting

                “vote to make sure I can vote again in the future”

                lol sorry but I if that’s really what’s coming then I don’t think the Democrats are against it; they would have pulled out all the stops to block Trump from even getting on a ballot.

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                  You are just a bunch of fun with your lack of reading posts and all. You’re out here wildin’.

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          From the article.

          We have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable," said the letter, which was first reported by USA Today.

          Remember what he did with TS clearance and his children. The alternative is a national security risk.

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          You’re wasting your breath, it’s no use trying to point out that their choices are quite literally conservative vs conservative+, they don’t care, they don’t want to hear it, facing the truth is too uncomfortable, so they’d much rather just keep their blinkers on and believe that their “team” is really progressive actually and there to protect them, and so they can leave their aspirations for change in their “safe” hands, despite everything in current reality, and history to boot, points to the contrary.

          And they will fight to the death for their right to never consider the bigger picture and posture with their bare minimum efforts as if they’ve at the very least single handily saved the world.

          The irony of how identical their self harming loyalty to their “team” is compared to those they claim to be the complete opposite of would be wildly hilarious if it wasn’t so concerning.

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            When the choice is conservative or conservative+, I’ll choose the non-plus option. I don’t like the circumstances, but I’ll do whatever is needed to shift the overton window back towards a direction of sanity.

            Progressive politics can’t happen if radical conservative politics cause 10 years of societal regression in a single term.

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            All true. I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something because they post at really weird times of day for North America. Unless they have pathetic social lives, they are probably in Asia or something 🤷 they also cooperate, or post from multiple accounts.

            Moreover, their arguments are a bit circular and cannot go anywhere once they are accused of being OK with genocidal activity. They ignore facts and just focus on trashing the commenter

            No hasbara though

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              I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something

              Could definitely be, could also be that the propaganda is so efficient that many people can’t see beyond it. Probably a bit of both.

              No hasbara though

              Small mercies ig lol

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    Lmfao, how many conservatives does it take to endorse the “progressive” before the “blue no matter who” crowd realise they’re not voting “blue” at all, and worse, that “blue” is and always has been a fiction created to shift the Overton window constantly to the right and manufacture consent by and for whatever it is those in power are actually interested in?

    What a fucking joke, seriously…

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      Have you listened to any of these Republicans who have endorsed her talk? They all think she’s wayyyy too progressive for them during normal times, they’re not endorsing Harris because she’s somehow a conservative now, they’re endorsing Harris because their party got taken over by fascists and they’re rare spine-filled conservatives.

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        You’re really not making the point you think you are.

        Their words don’t matter (seriously, people are now going to convince themselves that conservatives have even a smidge of integrity, honesty, or a single non-self serving bone in their body, to make this work? smfh), their actions do, and their actions are to support a candidate that serves their interests best, and anyone serving their interests best (E: only because the other person is saying the quiet parts of their ideology out loud and getting in their way, and absolutely not because they disagree with said ideology), isn’t serving yours, at all.

        You can try to maintain your cognitive dissonance at whatever cost you wish, but that won’t change reality. ¯\(ツ)

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          Believe it or not, conservatives aren’t lying 24/7, they actually believe the things they say. That goes for both Pro-Trump and Anti-Trump conservatives.

          If you were actually engaging in good faith political analysis, you’d see Harris is significantly more left wing than McCain or Romney.

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      We have to beat the Republican because beating the Republican comes first. Then we need to get a veto-proof majority so that our Democrat president doesn’t veto the legislation written by our Democrats in Congress. Finally, we need to elect a fully liberal SCOTUS.

      Only then can we talk about lowering the enrollment age for Medicare by three years. Only then can we talk about raising the minimum wage by $1. Only then can we talk about establishing a student loan debt forgiveness program for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities.

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      So, like to so many other posters like this, I pose the question:

      What is the alternative?

      There are 49 Jocks led by a narcissistic jerk of a cheerleader in our school, and they have promised to close the book club and the game club, and make it easier for the jocks to abuse the Nerds, and the only thing between them and that is us 51 Nerds. When the SGA elections happen, the person with the most votes wins, and if that means 49 Jocks to 48 Nerds to 3 Nerds that bought the bullshit and voted third party or stayed home, it’s a 49 to 48 win for the Jocks and we 51 Nerds will just have to make do without Book and Game club. Is this person seriously advocating voting third party or staying home because Team Blue is too purple for their tastes? That’s a good way to get Project 2025 up the back entrance, sideways, without lube or dinner. A reminder to everyone else who might be swayed by this individual. There’s a reason why they are net -50 on votes right now and have 65 downvotes, and it’s not groupthink.