Folks, win or lose, the aftermath of election day will be a shitshow. I’ve written up a guide for how to survive Election Day 2024. The TL;DR: form is prepare for a hurricane or blizzard, with a nod to crazy people by preparing for self-defence, then be ready to hunker down. Election 2024 promises to be crazy, given how 2020 went down. Please look after yourselves!

Right. I like meat. Not going to lie – I can be convinced to eat more plants and less meat, but I’ll fight you if you try to take my meat away.

My father and I can’t be further apart on politics. He’s a Goldwater Republican, old-school hard-core conservative that doesn’t like Trump the man, but loves Trump the politician. He runs his big truck on >>Earth Day just to spite the Environmentalists.

Sounds like you guys have a lot in common behaviorally despite your professed political differences.

And you wonder why you get so many downvotes and pushback. You stand in judgement over what somebody else wants to eat. It’s not enough for you to meet half way. If they don’t capitulate 100% to you and subjugate themselves at your feet, you spit bile at them. You automatically assume the worst about other people, hurl invectives at them, and wonder why it is your candidate of choice doesn’t win. Thanks for illustrating that ‘my way or the highway’ isn’t just Republican territory.

What does your answer have to do with tee9000’s question?

Americans make it a past time to hate on other Americans, and don’t think this is limited to Left vs. Right. I like meat. Not going to lie – I can be convinced to eat more plants and less meat, but I’ll fight you if you try to take my meat away. For that, I get called vile things by fanatic vegans who can’t seem to accept that I have my own life and make my own choices, despite the fact that I agree with them on a variety of other things, including having a lighter touch on the planet, being responsible stewards of our resources, treating animals with respect and kindness, and of course things like civil rights. Watch this; I expect them to be along shortly to prove my point.

My father and I can’t be further apart on politics. He’s a Goldwater Republican, old-school hard-core conservative that doesn’t like Trump the man, but loves Trump the politician. He runs his big truck on Earth Day just to spite the Environmentalists. Tee9000’s question speaks to my dad’s and my relationship. If I follow your pattern, I cut him out of my life and leave him high and dry. And trust me: there have been times when I wanted to do exactly that. But what would it accomplish? I’d be disowned by my dad, he’d die old and alone (mom died 5 years ago, I’m his only child), and we’d just hate each other. And I’d never have learned that he swapped out all his incandescent bulbs, which he swore the government would have to pry out of his cold, dead hands, for LED lighting, because…*gasp*…environmentalists listened to the criticisms of CFLs and replaced them with something that matched the quality of lighting from his favourite lights.

You can accomplish far more by listening and cooperating than you do by vilifying and hating on people. That’s Tee9000’s point.

Now, I’m not saying that you should put up with people misgendering you. Far from it. Stand up for your rights. But maybe instead of cutting people out of your life, you should make inclusion in your life contingent on respect. “You used masculine pronouns to refer to me despite knowing that I prefer feminine pronouns. Unless and until you respect me, I will not interact with you any more.” works far better than “fuck you, good bye.” It makes it clear on them that they have to respect you, and maybe, just maybe, you’ll actually change a few minds. I think that’s what Tee9000 is trying to say here.

Definitely seems like the media, bought up by very conservative old men, has a favourite in the election. Not sure if they’re pushing the narrative that Trump is surging to depress Democratic Party vote or motivate us to not get complacent.

Couple of ideas here:

• Registered Voters != Likely Voters. That’s like Polling 101 right there and part of why this isn’t black and white.
• She probably thinks she’ll lose more of her coalition by banning fracking than she’ll retain.
• Cold, hard, cash is always a possible answer.

I suspect Harris looked at this poll or something like it. Americans don’t know what they want, but they do know what they don’t want, and that’s too much change at one time. Which is a shame because Obama ran on Hope and Change. But by the time he took office, the gap between people who said that they thought the Government should take responsibility for quality healthcare and those who say that it’s none of the Government’s business shrank from like +40 to almost 0, and only in a matter of 2 years. Then he passed the ACA, and that number went negative. Between Progressives leaving him high and dry and moderates saying he went to far, Obama just got creamed on this. And I’m sure Harris wants to serve more than one term, especially if the Trumpster Fire is still kicking around in 2028!

One more absolutely not.

Let’s follow two votes. Vote #1 was cast in Colorado.

• It starts as a paper ballot sent by standard (“snail”) mail from our election division to me, the voter. I am notified it’s coming.
• I mark this ballot like I would an exam, just with a blue or black pen and not a #2 pencil. I’m going to do this in front of my computer, with ballotopedia open and key issues already marked.
• I drop this ballot off at the Election Division drop box. I am notified they received it.
• If there are problems, I am notified that I need to come in and ‘cure’ them.
• Once it’s accepted, I am notified, and then it’s scanned in to a tabulator. Once it’s scanned, it’s stored in a secure box.
• On Election Day, it’s counted, and the results are posted.
• If the election is close, or there is real evidence of criminality, the ballot is retrieved from its secure box and electronically or hand-counted again.

Vote 2 was cast in Louisiana.

• The voter must go to a designated voting centre on a voting day.
• The ballot is voted on an electronic machine that does not generate a paper trail.
• The vote counts are stored within the voting machine.
• If the election is stolen, there is no way to go back and check. The machines say what the machines say, and it’s trivial to engage voting shenanigans without any paper trail to track it down.

I’m going to fight hard for my system, buddy. You can keep your internet voting.

You might not care about climate change, but climate change cares about you, and it’s gonna knock down your house. :3

What a very ironic post by this poster. It says everything we’ve been saying. So either the poster doesn’t read the articles it posts, or it agrees with me about wasted votes, and is just posting and commenting to piss people off. Really, not great form here.

Yes. A vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote in the US Presidential election. It’s a wasted vote in everywhere but Alaska and Maine, honestly, and is a wasted vote there if you don’t vote the major party as a second or third or whatever vote. Sure, you might vote a third party in order to express dissatisfaction for both major party candidates or a preference for a minor party candidate, but it won’t move the needle. Voting isn’t a single person thing, because you have an infinitesimal influence in the election: 1/150,000,000 for the Presidential election, made even worse if you factor in the Electoral College. The key to getting what you want is convincing others to join you, and voting tactically so that you get the guy or gal you can have a conversation with in office.

Sometimes, the only appropriate response to a given news article is:

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Uh…not a great idea.

Suppose my parents made the decision to move to Alaska instead of Colorado for my birth, then moved to Colorado where I grew up. I’d be asked to vote in Alaska’s elections, despite having no ties there, no stake in the outcome, and no reason to care about the issues. And if I’m to vote a Colorado ballot, why not let me vote that ballot from Colorado? If I want to go to a family reunion, I’ll go to a family reunion. I don’t need to be forced to go to one by being forced to vote in a state I no longer live in.

Same way for Colorado. It’s all the benefit of electronic voting, but with the added safety of paper ballots. And it’s a format we’re all familiar with from school – bubble in our answer (just with a pen instead of a number 2 pencil), and then turn it in. The counters feed the ballots into the counting machine, which tallies up the votes, then the ballots are stored in nice boxes, which can be retrieved and hand-counted on the off-chance the machines get hacked or otherwise…tampered with (Tina Peters, I’m looking at YOU…as you go to jail for 9 years! :3).

The best politicians money can buy…

Some will be violent. Some will be vocal. Some will grumble and move on. The violent ones will be the ones who make the evening news. They may also cause serious disruptions.

For the most part, I think you should prepare for disruption equivalent to a blizzard or hurricane. Stock up on canned foods. Get containers for water. Order Life Straws if you don’t have them already. Stock up on batteries and charge any rechargeables you have. Make sure you know where your flashlights are. Load up on propane tanks for your grill and have a plan for how to use your grill safely. Add to that self-defence tools in case of civil disturbances in your area – we’re going to keep non-lethal but still painful self-defence tools for our self-protection. And then wait things out and try to stay safe. Check in on your neighbours, and stuff like that. I wrote an article on what I think you should do to survive Election 2024 with more details.

If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there, because obviously the community here doesn’t like this poster, and finally, the moderation team is saying they’ve had enough of its shit.

It’s here because it really wants to ‘show us up’, posting incendiary topics, needling posters, pushing this meme that Trump would be better than Harris, and constantly egging on commentor after commentor.

Stolen Valour.

Asking pollsters to be mind readers is a bit much, in my book. Besides. How can we count on Conservatives not voting for Trump? In that polling place, with hopes for more Conservative judges, fewer abortions, and more ‘Real America’, the cagey Conservative can vote for the evil without having to own that vote. I’ve met plenty of Conservatives who say, “I don’t like the guy personally, but I do like my 6-3 court, and Liberals want to take that away from me.”

If they vote for us, great! That’ll make a marginal victory into a landslide victory, and might push a marginal loss into a solid victory. But we can’t count on them. We need to do the work to make sure we get past that 50%+1 margin in at least 270 EVs worth of states and not count on other people to do it. I don’t want to wake up Wednesday morning and see that Stein got more votes in the state that we needed to get to 270 than Trump won that state by…

The message here is that you shouldn’t count on any of that. Polling has its issues, for sure, and there may very well be a huge win for Harris in unexpected places as Republican voters cross the aisle to deny Trump a seat. Or it may all be a mirage and we’re back to leftie voters switching to Third Parties or staying home in enough numbers to give Trump the win. The only way to be sure that we win and Project 2025 and Trump are denied are to turn out as if we’re 1% down in the polls. Vote like your vote is the +1 in the 50%+1 that determines who will win. Vote as if every single Republican was going to turn out for Trump and his awful policies. And if you honestly think that we’ve got this in the bag, vote so that the numbers are crazy. Vote so you can get the landslide.

None of the polls matter except the one that concludes next month, that your State will run. Never forget that.

Give it a try and see if the mods let it stand. That’s the only way to be sure. And don’t expect consistency. After all, this is a part of the rules:

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

Dear reader, when you read OP’s posts, take the time to look at the upvote to downvote percentage. This poster is going out of its way to bash Democrats, and while we can’t say why that is (thanks mods!!!), we CAN say that there is a concerted effort by Republicans, Russians, right-wing trolls, and other authoritarians to throw this election to Trump to establish authoritarianism here. Keep that in mind as you read these articles from this poster.