• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Bruh…

    The first time it was part of a presidential platform was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912.

    If all it took was people dying off, we’d have gotten it by now. The problem is we keep trying, getting a tiny crumb, and then get stalled another 20 years by our own party because we just got something.

    Affordable care act was 2010, so we might get another crumb when Harris is getting ready to leave her second term. That way the progressive in the primary would get under cut on healthcare against the moderate because they’ll frame asking for more as being against what we just got.

    I just legitimately don’t understand why more people don’t see it, it’s blatantly obvious on a long enough timeline.

    The only way we get universal healthcare is if we refuse to shut up about it.

    I already get it. I’m a disabled vet, but it’s just insane to me hearing what the majority of Americans have to deal with

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      I suspect Harris looked at this poll or something like it. Americans don’t know what they want, but they do know what they don’t want, and that’s too much change at one time. Which is a shame because Obama ran on Hope and Change. But by the time he took office, the gap between people who said that they thought the Government should take responsibility for quality healthcare and those who say that it’s none of the Government’s business shrank from like +40 to almost 0, and only in a matter of 2 years. Then he passed the ACA, and that number went negative. Between Progressives leaving him high and dry and moderates saying he went to far, Obama just got creamed on this. And I’m sure Harris wants to serve more than one term, especially if the Trumpster Fire is still kicking around in 2028!

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        By the same token she needs Pennsylvania and 58% of registered voters want to ban fracking because it negatively effects them…

        Like you said, the people know what they don’t work, but both candidate have explicitly said they won’t ban fracking.

        If Harris is doing what you’re saying and just trying to win, why not ban fracking?

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          1 month ago

          Couple of ideas here:

          • Registered Voters != Likely Voters. That’s like Polling 101 right there and part of why this isn’t black and white.
          • She probably thinks she’ll lose more of her coalition by banning fracking than she’ll retain.
          • Cold, hard, cash is always a possible answer.
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      Affordable care act was 2010, so we might get another crumb when Harris is getting ready to leave her second term. That way the progressive in the primary would get under cut on healthcare against the moderate because they’ll frame asking for more as being against what we just got.

      Jesus, the ACA took literally every penny of political capital Obama had, and he walked in with more than any Dem president in decades.

      If he hadn’t wasted his and our time on the ACA we could have passed something useful, like campaign finance reform, though that would have been dismantled too, you still have to work on it, CU is killing this country.

      You have a 5th grader’s appreciation of politics.

      Healthcare needs to be fixed in a completely different way, the insurers need to be staked through the heart, and the providers not far after, otherwise nothing you do will matter, there’s simply too much money involved.