• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Holy shit, right? I genuinely have not been this optimistic about a presidential election since 2008. Don’t get me wrong - shit could still go sideways. But Harris at this point is absolutely SLAYING, and is mostly saying the right things on the right topics, and furthermore is CLEARLY on top of her game, and fully understands the stakes.

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    What she really needs to do is start pushing some of the truths of P2025 and how they’ll impact people who may lean right. Specifically hit labor groups and how it would ban Unions.

    And it should also hit how much the orange turd hates the military with a big push about the Arlington fiasco, his VA cuts and what he’s said specifically. Push that hard.

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      Yeah, I’m a little worried that everyone seems to have forgotten about P2025 already. And especially worrying that I’ve seen no mention of reinstating Chevron. Of all things this miserable SCOTUS did, that is easily the most damaging.

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    Harris is set to hold two rallies in North Carolina and one in Pennsylvania as part of the kickoff for her “New Way Forward Tour,” which her campaign said is an effort to “capitalize on her decisive victory” against former President Donald Trump at the ABC News debate earlier this week.

    what new way forward? is she going to suddenly come out strong on anything with a plan forward?

    she said nothing in the debates about anything that affects the US citizens on a day-to-day basis and neither did Trump

    no matter who wins there will be more police funding, less healthcare, no women’s rights, no healthcare reform, nothing to help the environment, more genocide, more antiimmigration, more world policing, stagnant pay, and lots of molasses

    what does Harris bring to the table besides being more mentally fit and yes younger but still too old to relate to the populace just like Trump

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      what does Harris bring to the table besides being more mentally fit and yes younger

      Hey you kind of admitted that she’s an improvement over Trump finally! We’ve got the banana endorsement people!

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        being younger and more mentally fit than Trump is not a justification or a qualification to elect someone as leader

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        Democrats support old fashioned politics that will slow progress down like molasses just as much as Republicans and so do the voters who keep showing their support for the slow regressive march backwards towards the good old’ days with voting

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          Not really sure what reality you’re in, but in case you haven’t noticed we have pretty much 2 choices in the US until RCV or its alternatives reach a critical threshold.

          Rs who don’t just want to slow down progress, but actively taking things backwards and Ds who progress things slower then we’d like, but still progress nonetheless.

          I’d rather have slow progress than backwards progress any day.

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      What are you even talking about? She explicitly addressed healthcare, women’s rights, and economic relief in the fucking debate, not to mention she has actual platform and policy on all the other topics you mentioned. Like, she has positions and lack of positions I strongly disagree with but stupid revisionist shit like this is such blatant misinformation, it’s distressing to think thus is what “informs” so many voters’ opinions.

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      Bro there’s still no other option but to vote for her. The alternative is literally to set the country on actual fire.

      Two party system fuckin sucks and yes it needs to be changed, but when the literal end of democracy is the alternative, there’s no other choice.

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      did you watch the debate? Her response to abortion was crystal clear. Suggesting it doesn’t affect people is insane.

      And your framing is exactly what JD Vance attempted, basically: I didn’t see a plan from Harris and plans don’t put food on the table. Which is onion-esque levels of trying to have it both ways.

      I understand the problem with her capitulating to the (lets not call it the republican framing as the whole media has done little to challenge it) media framing on gaza and immigration. Its discredits democrats that they don’t challenge the framing at all and at least bring up DACA.

      What a Harris win would buy us is time to reframe these narratives and attempt solutions and could possibly push the court closer to an overturn of citizens united. No single election is going to solve the myriad problems we face.

      Its also clear Trump, if he wins, will run the country as a figurehead for fascism while his remaining advisors run things - most involved in heritage foundation’s project 2025 - which will at best face resistance, and at worst reshape america into more of a pay to play hellhole than it already is, while putting a number of minority groups in a vice

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      i guess it’s time for you to start planning your own fight then, huh? i mean it looks like there’s no political party that you can side with, so i guess that means it’s all up to you. i think you can still find copies of the anarchist’s cookbook online. what are you doing wasting your time here?

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      Try not to act surprised when you do nothing to elect leftist candidates locally and at the state level next year. Or any leftist candidates to the legislature at mid terms. And then in 4 years try not to act surprised that the POTUS candidates appeal to neoliberal, centrist and conservatives who have proven to engage with politics for decades and thus being an safe strategy to the white house.

      Pouting about it won’t endear people to your cause.

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        Try not to act surprised when you do nothing to elect leftist candidates locally and at the state level next year.

        The party protects anti-choice NRA stooge candidates like Cuellar, but refuses to protect incumbent progressives like Bowman and Bush.

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          The party does. And feeble-minded armchair leftists cosplayers sit around bickering about whos the truest scotsman until 6 months before the next presidential election and act surprised that nobody wants to engage with their top-down approach to political revolution

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            So the party does everything it can to lock out the left and you blame the left for not being able to start from the bottom.

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              Is it surprising to you that those in power act to keep themselves in power? If it is surprising maybe it’s time to brush up on your theory. Das Kapital may be the seminal work on the topic, but as a California native i think Huey P Newton is more relevant to modern American life and better illustrates how bottom-up organization is more effective for creating actual change

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                Is it surprising to you that those in power act to keep themselves in power?

                No. It shouldn’t have surprised me that centrists would blame the left for the actions of centrists to fuck them over, either.

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        So by your own admission, you acknowledge that your entire party is neoliberal, centrist and conservative. They have become the dominant right-wing conservative party

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                If you’re willing to overlook things like genocide so you don’t lose your privilege and position of status in society, it doesn’t appear that I’m the shallow one.

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                  Oh yes, you know my motivations better than me. Please tell me the queer father of trans mixed race children how im voting for my own self interest you absolute child

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                  well go fight your war instead of bitching at everyone else then. we don’t need you here.

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      You can’t go straight for the presidency with your ideals. You have to shift opinion from the bottom up. Meanwhile, we participate in a game of tug-of-war at the top levels.