$700, and the side by sides look barely different, from my perspective. The chat seemed to have the same opinion.

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    If consoles want to remain relevant in the age of the gaming PC, they have to try harder than being locked-down gaming PCs.

    Free and simple multiplayer, subsidised hardware, and physical game ownership were staples of most consoles for years but now the urge to turn every device into an “everything machine” has kneecapped the very purpose of these devices.

    At best, these are slightly less hassle and slightly more social than a gaming PC. At worst, they’re as anti-social and user-hostile without the cost benefit that once made them genuinely preferable.

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    The side-by-sides are definitely diminished returns compared to earlier gens where hardware bumps had very noticeable gains.

    I am sure the performance is measurably better than the base PS4, but I don’t think it’s $200-plus-separate-disc-drive better.

    I also found the game choices they used for some of these comparisons to be odd picks. Sure you have “Made for PS5” exclusives like the new Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, and Spider-Man 2, but they also heavily showcased:

    • The Last of Us Part 2

    • God of War: Ragnarok

    • Ghost of Tsushima

    • Horizon: Forbidden West

    All of those are last-gen games that received PS5 enhancements. Being on a base PS5, I already feel like I am getting the “better” experience compared to the default for those games, so why upgrade?

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        Things like this actually makes me sad because you know who to blame for the games failure yet you also know who will take the blame and who will leave with a golden parachute.

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          I try to focus on the part where the thing they were building was inherently bad for video games, so this makes it less likely for it to happen again.

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    Why not go PC at this point. Modern consoles are locked pre-built PCs and paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.

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      Because of the hope that at some point someone smart will discover an exploit that will allow everyone to install their own homebrew and possibly a completely different OS which will result in a good spec PC with powerful GPU for extremely cheap.

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    Sony’s problems are twofold:

    • They are charging an absurd amount of money for a game console
    • They are selling a game console that has practically no first party games for it.

    If they had plenty of the latter, they could weather this. But there are still games releasing for the PS4, and they have had 1, maybe 2 PS5 releases that would qualify as first party this year (that don’t bubble down to PC).

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    I love the price. At $700 it’s just what I needed to convince my friend who was holding out for the pro to move on to PC. $700 buys a pretty decent AMD card nowadays. Shit for $800 we’re talking decent refurbished gaming PCs.

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    At the beginning of this generation, I planned to buy a used PS5 when the Pro version was coming. I did not know that the PS5 would have almost no games for me (especially because they released the big ones for me on PC), the base PS5 would cost even more, and most people will not upgrade to the Pro because of its absurd pricing (note because it’s not worth it, but because the market for it is likely very niche).

    I guess I will just skip Sony’s platform for this generation.

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    This GPU bump is pretty big it’s almost a PS6. Keeping the old Zen2 CPU is disappointing though.

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    They need to pump out more games to justify this. I see no reason to upgrade as mine already sits and collects dust. The controller is super awesome tho, use it all the time for my PC.

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    I don’t see the point in this. I’m already planning to get a PC (and a Radeon 7900 XTX will always outperform a PS5), so it’s just more money for no benefit.

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    Darn, I posted this earlier but sadly lemm.ee is having server issues. This’ll be the main thread, then.

    Official Blog Post | PS5 Pro Reveal Trailer

    The PS5 Pro console will be available this holiday at a manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) of $699.99 USD, £699.99 GBP, €799.99 EUR, and ¥119,980 JPY (includes tax). It will include a 2TB SSD, a DualSense wireless controller and a copy of Astro’s Playroom pre-installed in every PS5 Pro purchase. PS5 Pro is available as a disc-less console, with the option to purchase the currently available Disc Drive for PS5 separately.

    The big question mark for me is that not only does it cost 800 euros, it does NOT come with a disc drive. There is no version of it with a disc drive like the PS5, you have to buy it as an accessory. I guess physical games really are going away.

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      The writing has been on the wall for physical games for some time. If you want to hold on to your games, DRM-free is better than physical.

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        Sadly not an option for console. I don’t own a PS5 currently but when I did own consoles I would trade games and buy used all the time, it’s a shame this might not be possible next generation.

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          I know it’s not an option for consoles. Since the 7th gen, it was always moving in this direction. It’s probably one of dozens of reasons that PC overtook consoles in market share.