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      This is true, but I think it’s even more simple than this.

      They want a specific guy to win.

      While we want specific policies to win.

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        If I wanted specific policies to win there’s nobody available to vote for. Unless you think “the one viable option that isn’t theocratic fascism or a reich” is a policy, since that’s what I’m voting for this year.

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          pretty much. not that simplified but if the hill you wanna die on is less rights vs more rights, here we go.

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      Jesus fucking christ Lemmy has jumped the shark.

      We criticized Biden because we wanted a shot at winning and he didn’t have one.

      Trump as an opponent is the best shot Democrats have for winning. He’s deeply unpopular.

      It’s shocking ho idiotic takes like this are.

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          To imply that everyone criticizing Biden’s age and mental competency was arguing in bad faith is complete bs. Anyone who has seen or heard him speak can rationally argue this man should not be president and will lose against trump. Anyone paying attention could reasonable say there are dozens of better candidates as the democratic nominee. I’m glad people spoke up otherwise this election looks far worse. This headline and the comment I replied to and deleted (the comment you are quoting here) is donor-class pissing

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      Wait, the people who criticized Joe Biden or the people who are claiming nobody has criticized Trump for his age?

      Seems like this whole thread is just rage-bait.

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    The majority of people who objected to Biden were Democrats that wanted a better candidate because we were afraid that Biden would lose to Trump. The majority of Republicans can’t conceive of a universe where Trump ever loses an election so there hasn’t been an equivalently loud push on the GOP side.

    Also, while I’d personally rather Trump be off the ballot entirely a fair chunk of democratic voters seem to think we’re better off with Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.

    Basically, this article is drawing an equivalence between two very different situations.

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      I want Trump off the ballot (and planet) but I do think that another GOP candidate would have been much more likely to win.*

      Public opinion on the current administration and the economy is negative to the point that one would expect the incumbent party to be facing an extremely uphill battle. But Trump is even more unpopular, brings a ton of baggage, energizes his opposition and alienates his allies by threatening democracy and the rule of law, says crazy nonsense that drives away independent voters instead of focusing on issues, and sabotages his own campaign through mismanagement.


      * Of course, that would only have happened if Trump hadn’t run, since he would almost certainly have caused chaos and infighting if someone beat him in the primaries.

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    Nothing is disqualifying for a Republican candidate for president.

    Except maybe, I dunno, having a plan for healthcare or housing affordability or something.

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        He has no plans at all except to bloviate like an idiot at any given opportunity, take massive dumps in his depends, avoid prison because he’s the president again, start up some concentration camps if he can stay off truth social that long, and cheat at golf.

        If there is another crisis in the next four years (which is almost guaranteed because he’s also a moronic crisis generator and so are the dimwits that he’ll nominate to cabinet positions), he will handle that just as poorly as he handled COVID.

        He’ll also probably die in office. In fact, I think the odds of him dying in office are far better than the odds of him coming up with a healthcare plan or a plan to increase housing affordability.

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          The orange arsewipe can be easily lead like Homer Simpson “Ohh, piece of candy. Ohh, piece candy. Ohh, piece of candy”.

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            There is zero evidence he has that much attention span.

            Also, that was James Woods.

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      It’s not just Republicans, but Republicans are notorious for their universal double standards that only one without shame can have.

      To varying degrees, every single person has things in their life that they like, and no amount of accurate, undeniable, objective, information about it being bad/wrong/inefficient etc will change their mind unless they decide they want to.

      There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans, which is a large part of why they now have a God king who wears diapers and has more fingers than functional brain cells.

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        There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans

        What are they? This guy literally tried to overthrow the government. He openly courts Russian influence in elections. He openly admits to being easily corrupted and persuaded by individual campaign donors to the point of changing his entire position on the basis of what companies they own. He has been convicted of felonies. He has been convicted of fraud. He has been found in court to have sexually assaulted women. He had his charity organization shut down due to fraud. Many of his attorneys can no longer practice law because of the things he had them attempt in courtrooms. He conspired to bring fake electors to Washington DC. He sent love letters back and forth with a North Korean dictator. He bragged about assassinating a murder suspect in the Pacific Northwest. He’s incontinent. He’s unintelligible. He was impeached twice. He said “we’ll take the weapons first and then do process later”. He said of John McCain “I like people who weren’t captured”. He fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then he paid the porn star off to cover up the story during the election. He mocks disabled reporters. He smells like a full diaper. He said he can “grab women by the pussy” because he is a star. He sold beans from the oval office because a Goya executive said they supported him. He called Nazis “very fine people”. He told the American public that “they’re looking into” injecting disinfectants in order to cure COVID. He refused COVID testing and then went on-stage for a planned debate with an active case of it. He wanted a military parade. During the passage of his meager working-person tax cut, he forced the US treasury to attach his signature to the checks. He’s fundamentally weird and never appears to laugh or ever even tell a coherent joke. He rarely even smiles. He likely gave secret documents to the Russians. He and his family used private email servers continually despite pretending that his political opponent deserved to be in jail for doing so. He complains constantly about the state of the country whether or not he is leading it. He does not appear to have a single friend in the world. Everyone who works with him winds up regretting it. He goes on strange rants where he speaks as if “the late great Hannibal Lecter” is or was an actual person that died. He lies about his mental and physical health. The list goes on and on and on.

        Yet despite all of that…HE IS THE GOP NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.

        The guy is a walking version of “the aristocrats” joke.

        As far as I can tell a disqualifying trait for the Democratic candidate for President is looking too old or letting out a “BYAAAAW” at a campaign event. So this isn’t exactly a “both sides” type of thing. One party’s candidates have to walk on water to barely win, while the other’s continually rack up absolutely absurd would-be dis-qualifiers and continue to be taken seriously by the media, the government, and the public.

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          A Republican isn’t gonna read that wall of text and neither am I, because it doesn’t matter.

          Everything and more you listed Trump does doesn’t matter to his voters, because he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list, so anything else is irrelevant.

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            he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list

            He’s going to be pro-industry, pro-oligarchy, and pro-rich people. He’s going to do whatever the moneyed interests in the country (and the globe for that matter) want him to do.

            That’s the entire Republican Christmas list. As long as he does that, they don’t care about what he says or does and they’ll paper over all of it on their news network.

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              You’re confusing rich Republicans who benefit from Trump, and the poor/middle class who get absolutely nothing but racisim and Christianity.

              The super wealthy bankroll everything and get all the rewards + power.

              But the votes that put him in office are 95% from people who will be hurt by deregulation, crushed by increased taxes (that pay for the racisim and forced Christianity), and want the freedom to openly hate anything they don’t like (which they believe was woked away from them).

              The idiots who will be crushed by Trump the hardest are his biggest fans.

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                You’re confusing rich Republicans who benefit from Trump, and the poor/middle class who get absolutely nothing but racisim and Christianity.

                And you’re confusing “the base” with people whom the Fox News and rich people apparatus more generally don’t have any control over.

                The federalist society and other “think tanks” decide the actual agenda. Trump is just the talking head at the center of it. When he’s dead and buried it’s not like they’re going to start advising people to vote for Democrats.

                The reason none of these (sometimes very serious) things sink him is because the media constantly gives him a pass on all of it.

                He’s their mascot. He’s shown himself to be friendly enough to corporate interests that he’s allowed to continue being that mascot. They still need one that’s at least popular enough to enliven some of the dead as disco voter demographics they need to get into office and obtain power.

                Once he’s elected again their plan is to “fix it so good” that nobody will have to ask for votes anymore, because at least what they want (and they might get it) is to be able to disenfranchise, cheat, and abuse their way to victory and extinguish democracy altogether.

                Look at the states they govern, for example, North Carolina is already considered “not a democracy” by some international watchgroups because of the gerrymandering and other tactics used to control the outcome of elections there. They want to go national with that.

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      Making any decision that helps citizens at the expense of the corporations and the wealthy would be disqualifying.

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    Are people really just now realizing he’s barely coherent? That’s why he got so much coverage 9 years ago in the first place. It’s been the #1 joke every fucking day for night show hosts since he rolled down that escalator to say Mexicans are rapists.

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      No, just liberals. It’s literally just a sports game to them. This is one of their funniest sneers because it’s so obvious why leftists don’t give a shit about Trump.

      The reason, for the liberals reading, is because Donald Trump is not the DNC candidate for President of the United States of America.

      Crazy, I know.

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        What would it mean if you are the crazy that you imagine you see everywhere around you? Have you ever had a physiological health workup or general mental health focused therapy?

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    The bothsiderist media didn’t even bothsides things when both candidates were older. Now that only the Republican one is older, I have zero expectation of them asking why donnie is so old.

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    People need to start talking about a possible President Vance. If Trump wins, it is a near certainty that he will die or be declared unfit within a year or two at most. If that were to happen, Vance will become president. Project 2025 would have Vance’s full support and the support of the Federalist Society and the backing of billionaires like Thiel and Musk.

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      Sadly, Trump’s Klan enthusiast father lived to 93.

      In addition to Reagan effectively destroying the nation, he and his enabler wife Nancy kept his Alzheimer’s decline quiet so he could complete his second term to protect muh legacy. Being declared unfit requires your own cabinet turning on you, that requires appointing people of integrity to begin with.

      Not only could we be governed by someone deep into senility. We already have.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-president-son

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      Project 2025 is so dystopian. I am somewhat triggered by it. Realistically I think anyone should oppose it with any fiber of their body, on the other hand, living in a cyberpunk hell is so romantic&cool in movies, games and books (it won’t be in real live). Hard to understand how any sane person would support shit like that.

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      It’s a shame they missed the (imo) significantly more poignant joke of having the guy painting from the roof to cover up “Don’t”.

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    Where are they? Exactly where they always were.

    On the Left and amid the DNC, there has always been a lack of unity. The Democrats in general display a stark willingness to turn against their own, to eat their own candidate, in the event of a failure. A favored politician gets caught sending inappropriate pictures to someone who isn’t their spouse? Their career is over. An incumbent fucks up a debate? Their base splits and explodes and forces them out. On the left, you can’t fuck up and still expect unwavering support like you could on the Right.

    On the right, the cries about age and fitness are being shown as bad faith arguments. The fact that they still support their pants-shitting senile rambler felon of a candidate makes it pretty clear that they don’t actually care THAT MUCH about age and fitness. It was just a convenient weapon they could turn turn against Biden, because he was very slightly older than Trump, and when Trump babbles like an imbecile that’s just his normal. He’s always been unfit, as opposed to recently declining to that level.

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      There’s no solidarity like fascist solidarity. They stick to each other like stink on shit, unless one of them does something nice or normal. Then it’s straight to cancel town.

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        It’s why it’s so newsworthy whenever one of them declares that Trump “Deserved to be Charged” after he admitted he lost the election.

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    Because Biden is a boring president.

    He had no controversies, He said no outrageous things. The worst thing Biden ever did was show up, heavily jetlagged, to a debate, and still managed to perform decently in it (despite what the mass hallucination the media has incited would have you believe)

    He did his job, he did it well.

    And because of that, people didnt turn into broadcast media in droves to see the latest tidbits on what he had done. So ratings, and viewership, and profit declined for broadcast media.

    Which is why they love and want another Trump presidency.

    Because he is always saying something horrible, doing something horrible, has some new horrible controversy, almost every fucking day.

    Things that drive people to turn to the news every day and watch, in numbers that havent been seen since 9/11, and those numbers endured for 4 years of presidency.

    The Broadcast Media is addicted to trump, and will stop at nothing to ensure they can continue hit their drug of choice every. single. day. multiple times a day, if possible. and the best way to do that is to whitewash everything he does and says, and go after his opponents with an aggression that is worthy of lawsuits, to ensure he can be president again and give them those ratings, viewership and income again.

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      So I’m thinking out loud here and this is probably going to be controversial … But what if Harris took on a comedian (or an oaf) as communications director, to purposely do gaffes and create controversies, so maybe the for profit media might like her more. Basically a modern court jester.

      I always thought things like Sean Spicer hiding in the bushes were very funny. A bit embarrassing for sure, but also pretty funny.

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    The 78 and barely coherent crowd was already voting for Trump. The “we want more than barely coherent” now has Harris.