I mean Americans oversaw the transfer of power to fascists.
Sure Biden/Kamala should be issuing a warning, although they already have, many times. But the situation we find ourselves in is squarely on Americans.
Yeah, this post has big “third party voter” energy.
No American alive today had a say in the electoral college, yet it gave Bush Jr. and Donald Trump presidential powers despite the masses being against them. Americans weren’t in charge of the completely farcical 2000 election, Jeb Bush was. This time around, sure. The people have chosen this. Only after decades of witnessing how little representation they truly have.
They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don’t.
Edit: Please don’t respond with your pathetic excuses for supporting fascism, I’m not reading them. I don’t care how you justified it.
Netanyahu started a war with Palestine to get liberals pissed off at Democrats who basically have their hands tied due to the Jewish relationship with Dems and Israel being tied to our national security.
Poor Biden and Harris right? They did their bestest but if the people dont like them then maybe they just won’t talk to them anymore. Good thing we have some adults in the room.
Guess who made an absurd amount of money losing the election? Do people not realize what donations are spent on?
False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.
And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.
OP isn’t wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn’t show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.
But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.
Don’t forget the last 4 years of failing to deliver any meaningful improvements for the people who voted in 2020 or even stopping republicans from banning abortion. Also a year and a half of facilitating genocide while encouraging universities to beat the shit out of the very same politically-active students who would otherwise be campaigning for the democrats.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy? That doesn’t excuse them from not taking the gloves off and being very vocal about the roadblocks.
Gaza, while an issue is not moving the needle for the majority of voters.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy?
Use executive orders. Instead of asking the SCOTUS to tell texas to remove the child drowning fence across the rio, and look like you don’t actually want it gone, send in a tank to tear it out. The commander in chief can just do that. They can also order military hospitals to provide women with reproductive healthcare.
Did you not remember the Trump administration, where he’d try something new every week, and even if it did get shut down, getting told “no” after you’ve already accomplished what you wanted is better than not trying at all.
Appoint a head of the DoJ that would throw Trump in prison and investigate Manchin’s family.
Appoint a head of the DEA who would actually reschedule cannabis. You don’t need congress for these things.
It’s more than nothing.
Just wanted to point out that the opposite of your prediction happened:
Sometimes it’s delightful to be wrong.
They either didn’t believe the things they were saying or they don’t care.
Or both.
Don’t blame them, blame the people who didn’t vote
Let’s blame everyone for everything they did wrong. Blaming people who did nothing before you blame the actual Trump voters is literally insane.
But also blame the DNC for running a de-energizing campaign yet again.
People who weren’t energized enough by the perspective of Trump don’t count as citizens anyway. I don’t know what type of energy you personally wanted, but nothing will work on those who saw Trump’s shitshow and decided to sit this one out because Kamala didn’t dance enough or whatever
I think people were more tired because Kamala was dancing too much. As in, she and Biden were just there for show and didn’t really accomplish much. I did vote for her, but it wasn’t because of anything they did.
It might be because you didn’t pay attention to what the administration actually did. There is a problem that US citizens fundamentally don’t know what the president can or can’t do and what the processes are.
My main concern always has been and always will be Climate Change. His BBB program was never going to address that in a serious way.
It would have been nice to have more efforts reuniting those separated families that happened during Trump.
For me, the economy comes in way behind those issues.
I recently looked specifically for info on the separated kids, and all I could quickly find was an article saying the Biden administration had re-united several hundred families, but without any estimate of how many remained probably -permanently separated. Do you know a source for actual numbers on this?
No, blame Biden and his stupid arrogance.
The man knows his brain is melting AND he knows his presidency is unpopular, but sure, he’s going to waste months of campaign time and tens of millions of dollars, and then, to make it even better, he’s going to make sure no one in the Democratic Party tries to react to it like a reasonable person and politician.
Biden made plenty of mistakes but ultimately the people who didn’t vote are the most directly responsible, full stop.
The people who voted for Trump are obviously the most directly responsible, full stop with parking brake.
The democrats knew genocide decreases voter turnout. They did it anyway. The democrats knew ending covid protections, banning tiktok, restarting student loan repayments, etc all lower voter turnout. They did it anyway.
You can wish that we lived in a world where these things didn’t lower voter turnout, but that’s not productive.
Only the democrats had the power to change the outcome of this election.
Statement of caution? Americans are about to get what they asked for and if I was Biden, I’d steal half the shit on my way out and pardon all my family and friends. It’s clear that those are the rules now, so may as well take advantage of it before giving up the presidency. But American voters and those who stayed home can fuck right off and enjoy the next 4 years and keep their mouth shut.
They will be fine. With their millions of dollars, book sales, philanthropic foundations, speech engagements, fundraising… The changing of the guard doesn’t mean shit to them except they’re not on the government dime anymore.
The rest of the (sane) country? Watching them row away from the Titanic in a half-empty lifeboat.
Exactly.
Yeah Trump won the election. That is how democracy works.
Reporter: “Would you ceded the election if you lose?”
Trump: “If it’s a fair election.”
The reds prepped for MONTHS if not longer to fight democracy if Trump lost. They had loads of active cases up until the election on loads of bullshit interference. Which all promptly disappeared when Trump won.
Democracy isn’t the issue. It’s the corruption of these rich assholes.
Good thing we didn’t vote! We might have changed this!
It was going this way no matter what and the only question was how soon based on the voting choices we’re allowed to have.
People not voting is a symptom of the inherent contradictions of our system and we’re ignoring this and other symptoms because they seem fixable; they’re not but we’re going to try anyways because we don’t know better and we don’t know better because we’re told that we have the best system our entire lives.
People who hate democrats calling for the democrats to overthrow the US government to save them after voting third party. Lol.
They spent their admin continuing many of Trump’s worst policies. Even put his deportation and fossil fuel extraction numbers to shame.
They’re not worried about it.
They’re giving us a very quiet “then perish” right now.
Civility is the highest liberal virtue.
Either it’s civility, or it’s compromise and reaching across the aisle, but of course even compromise must always be done with great civility.
Didn’t Eisenhower or some president warn about the dangers of the burgeoning military indistrial complex in his farewell address?
And Eisenhower is remembered for it, respected for it, 60+ years later.
Biden and Harris will say nothing.
If I were them I wouldn’t exactly have a strong emotional desire to protect the people who voted for a fascist felon over them.
Sounds like terrible leadership
In a democracy giving people what they chose is good leadership.
We don’t live in a democracy and good leadership is not telling your whole team that they can get fucked because half of them made a bad decision.
Biden won the 2020 primaries by a huge margin, Trump won his primary by an even bigger margin, and Biden lost to Trump in the 2024 general WITH POPULAR VOTE.
Thats democracy. People chose this.
77 Million Trump voters who showed up and 6.6 Million DNC voters who stayed home, they all chose this.
Interesting you left roughly 60 million voters out of your comment that did NOT choose this.
74,749,891
But whats it matter? The majority decides the presidency, which bills get called to vote, budgets, etc.
It’s not enough if less than half of us aren’t complete monsters when most of us are. For the next election people need to do better, support the DNC, volunteer.
The majority does not decide us elections. The electoral college does and you can win without a majority vote of the population. And treating 74 million people like it’s their fault when they tried is the exact point I’m arguing. The dnc habitually forces their candidate on the base. Progressives don’t want to be force fed a status quo establishment figurehead that won’t change anything. The dnc should do better and they’d win by a landslide every time. Until then, it’s gonna be close calls every time and when they win presidency they won’t have enough in congress to pass shit
Of course, good managers pick sides and help push the other one off a cliff.
Do your emotional desires dictate your politics? Or do you have an ethical system that does that? If so, why didn’t your ethical system preclude you from writing that comment?
Emotions dictate the politics of the OP and artist, clearly.
Sounds like “whataboutism”/“tu quoque” to me.
See if it werent the primary topic being discussed here that would be fair like if I said “whatabout Trump’s emotions!” then it would work.
In fact, you asking about my politics was more whataboutism than my statement.
Scrolling back up, not sure I read your first comment correctly, but it does still apply. A politician is charged with doing the right thing (as if they ever actually do), not following their emotional desires. It’s unclear if you meant “the people who voted for a fascist felon” in terms of the public at large or just the Trump voters, though that applies either way (I know, we don’t like being merciful to bad people). I do think encouraging retribution, at the expense of the wellbeing of a society, is actively harmful, I don’t think that’s ethical, which is what I was pointing out about your comment, not trying to discredit your argument by saying you’re being hypocritical, which is what “tu quoque”/“whataboutism” would actually be. Now, you responding to my comment saying, “well OP/the artist have their politics dictated by emotion”, that is a perfect example of whataboutism, because instead of acknowledging or even examining the criticism, you’re just saying the same thing is true about someone else. So no, what I said was not more “whataboutism” then your statement.
I really don’t like this thing on social media where somebody will make a completely incorrect argument and then it’s like there’s an expectation placed on you to go back and point out all the problems with what they said. Can we literally get like, just the basic mechanics of logic out of the way? Having to spend time establishing this shit is insane.
