The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.
The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.
None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.
That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.
“The Democrats and the Republicans are all a den of crooks. Only one side lies about being crooks, and one doesn’t. If you’re going to be a crook, I’d rather know it than be lied to.”
If you’re going to be a crook, I’d rather know it than be lied to.
Of all dumb reasons for voting for Trump, this one takes the cake.
“I might be forcibly sodomized to death in a dark closet, but at least I’ll know who’s doing it by their voice!”
Look, I know things are hard, but that’s a really narrow take. At the very very least the democrats would not tear down what social services you could still claim. This is like shooting yourself in the foot, and being like “fuck that hurt, maybe it will be better next time?” Instead of “oh shit, better not shoot myself in the foot again”.
Or, “maybe if I shoot myself in the other foot, it’ll be better this time”
No, the analogy is “maybe I’ll shoot myself in the same foot again, but with 12 gauge”
After shooting yourself the first time, you may have recovered enough to walk normally. Imagine being so frustrated with that so you make sure you can never walk again
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This is the state of the American electorate. Just a total lack of critical thinking.
It’s by design and their goal is to make it worse.
And this idiot’s vote is dozens of times more powerful than that of any voter in any major city in the country.
That guy is 200% certified dumb fuck
I think at some point this is just overanalyzing things. People vote for the same team they always have. It is like asking a football fan why they root for their team. There often isn’t a real answer and what they tell you is ultimately nonsensical.
Interesting idea. I watch american football but i never got into it until later. And i find it interesting that i have no teams i prefer exactly. I just like to see the different plays and stuff. I do always vote left. But ive never considered democrats my team. Just the most closely aligned i guess. I would vote 3rd party if i felt it made a difference and there was a candidate i liked that i felt could win.
If people just vote for “the home team”, wouldn’t the results be similar every time? Yet we have different parties winning by different amounts every year.
Going only by myself, I don’t know, I suppose you could be right …… I moved to an area where people were politically more like me and I vote for different variations that are mostly compatible with my desires. I have voted third party in the past but aside from local offices, that just seems like a waste of my vote. I have voted for candidates from the other party when they seem to be the better choice. So I do generally vote for candidates from the same party, except when I don’t.
I am all about voting for who you want regardless of party. On a side note, some states make it so if you pick Republican or the Democratic party you have to vote for those candidates only.
I really wasn’t saying this particular person was just voting for the home team. I was more generally saying that all this over analyzing about what happened has its limits and some people just vote for their team and there is no real point wringing our hands about it anymore.
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Reminds me of how zuck called his users dumb fucks and they still use his platform
Betras said Trump’s success was a symptom of the Democrats’ failure to address the catastrophic impact of international trade agreements on manufacturing jobs in the US – a failure he pins on Bill Clinton and Barack Obama – and its further failure, under Obama, to take any meaningful action against Wall Street or the big banks after the housing collapse of 2007-08.
Whatever else you think about the article or about Ohio voters, these are valid and accurate criticisms in my view.
