Summary

Despite broken promises like the return of factory jobs, Donald Trump continues to gain support in Ohio’s rust belt, including Youngstown, a former Democratic stronghold.

Voters feel abandoned by both parties but resonate with Trump’s anti-establishment rhetoric and perceived authenticity.

Economic decline, disillusionment with political elites, and anger over issues like trade deals and student debt forgiveness fuel their frustration.

Many voters believe Trump’s willingness to “tear down the system” aligns with their grievances, even as doubts remain about his solutions.

Their bitterness reflects decades of industrial decline and neglect.

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      They’re not morons. Trump, Musk, super PACs, and the GOP are spending collosal amounts of money to mislead them. It’s not their fault that it’s working.

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        I don’t care how much propaganda and polished ads you put in front of me. If you can’t see Trump for the sleazeball narcissist conman that he is after a DECADE of near constant televised and tweeted unfiltered rants from this dickhead, along with his actual actions when he was in office before, you are a fucking moron. Period. When the guy himself says “I’m going to commit atrocities” and his propaganda machine says “he meant that metaphorically, or he was joking, or he was saying that just to trigger the libs, or he meant it but not the way it sounds, etc.”, and then the guy says “no I meant exactly what I said. I will commit atrocities. Bad ones!” You can’t go “Well geez, I’m hearing all sorts of conflicting information in the media. Who knows what you can believe? I’ll just assume that he meant whatever is most agreeable to me,” unless you’re a dumbass.

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        40 years ago that excuse would have tenuously worked. But if you never learn. Never do better. Constantly repeating the same bad actions. At some point the blame has to go to you. We are here.

        Make no mistake, many of them are 100% intellectually impaired. We know this for a fact. Lead in fuel and lead in paint etc. Absolutely had an impact. Causing mental impairment and violent behavior. To what extent is still a valid question.

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        No amount of ads make trump look like anything but the dipshit he is. It’s 100% their fault it works on them. It’s everyone’s responsibility to not be that fucking stupid, because it’s within their ability not just to do, but to do easily.

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    Voters feel abandoned by both parties but resonate with Trump’s anti-establishment rhetoric and perceived authenticity.

    If their impression of Trump includes a perception of authenticity, these people are well and truly lost. I have nothing to say to them, and want nothing to do with them.

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      They still think he was doing Bigly Important Bidness Stuff ™ on that goofy game show that he was given…

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    I can get it. These were dyed in the wool democrats, or at least their parents were. The Democrat party hung them out to dry with free trade, and abandoned them through ineptitude or unwillingness to resist decades of Republican strong arm politics, and relied on them as a reliable bloc the whole time.

    It’s not a choice I could make, but to denegrate working people for having literally no place to turn doesn’t seem like it’s been working out.

    It’s the party’s duty to serve the people. If they don’t do that it’s dumb to expect anything in return. Republicans got lucky/had crazy good strategy with making Jesus a Republican. They’re lying, but it’s working.

    Parading around the Cheney family? One upping Republicans on all their talking points on immigration and Israel? Those of that voted against trump sure as shit didn’t vote for the Democrats, we just voted for Republican lite.

    If the democratic party wants to do something about it, they’re going to have to start by differentiating the left from the right.

    Trump just called everyone assholes and won the presidency twice.

    I don’t get how anyone thought voting trump was a good idea. I understand where they’re coming from even if I don’t get how they got there.

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    So I am not familiar with us elections but arent there other candidates then democrats and republicans? Like 3rd party? If they don’t think trump will deliver, but dislike democrats, can they not vote someone else? Or spoil ballot? Here we also ended up with so far pretty useless labour but at the very least doing nothing is better than more years under conservatives or worse, racists that musk is keen to promote these days.

    Here we have a choice of either useless labour or retarded fucktards, so I vote 3rd party. At least it fucking shows not everyone is looking at the two main ones. But looking at our shit turn out, we have similar apathy