They’re invested in PC gaming as social capital where the performance of your rig contributes to your social value. They’re mad because you’re not invested in the same way. People often get defensive when others don’t care about the hobbies they care about because there’s a false perception that the not caring implies what they care about is somehow less than, which feels insulting.
Don’t yuck others’ yum, but also don’t expect everyone to yum the same thing.
Very well put! I’d also add that most people aren’t even really conscious that that’s the reason that they’re mad. There’s ways to express your negative opinion without stating it as a fact or downplaying the other person’s taste.
I’m very certain Anon isn’t just saying “nah, my rig works” to them when asked.
Maybe closer to “LMAO normies wasting money. fuckin coomsumers, upgrading for AAAA slop! LMFAO” into conversations they weren’t invited to.
I use a gaming laptop from 2018. Rog Zephyrus.
fan started making grating noise even after thorough cleaning, found a replacement on Ebay and boom back in business playing Hitman and Stardew.
Will I get 120 fps or dominate multiplayer? nah. But yeah works fine. Might even be a hand me down later on.
I use an ultrabook from 2017 to play Minecraft sometimes.
The computer I built in 2011 lasted until last summer. I smiled widely when I came to tell my wife and my friend, where my friend then asked why I was smiling when my computer no longer worked.
“Because now he can buy a new one” my wife quickly replied 😁
I’m still pushing a ten year old PC with an FX-8350 and a 1060. Works fine.
I didn’t think of my computer as old until I saw your comment with ten years and it’s gpu in the same sentence. When did that happen??
I think I added the 1060 later if that helps :D
Same here!
i am also using ~10 year old pc but mine is kinda lower end compared to yoursGenuine curiosity… Why BSD?
Also… There were significant improvements with intel Sandy bridge (2xxx series) and parent is using an equivalent to that. Sandy+ (op seems to be haswell or ivy bridge) is truly the mark of -does everything-… I’ve only bothered to upgrade because of CPU hungry sim games that eat cores.
https://unixdigest.com/articles/technical-reasons-to-choose-freebsd-over-linux.html
mine is clarkdale btw just fyi
besides that linux just doesn’t support my hardware, in all the distros in all the kernels heck even live arch iso there is this weird issue where the pc randomly freezes with those weird screen glitches randomly and the only option to make it work again is force hard reboot
My trusty backup is still an FX8320, the main is an I7-8700k with 1070ti
And it keeps you warm during cold snaps!
Yeah, I’m with you anon. Here’s my rough upgrade path (dates are approximate):
- 2009 - built PC w/o GPU for $500, only onboard graphics; worked fine for Minecraft and Factorio
- 2014 - added GPU to play newer games (~$250)
- 2017 - build new PC (~$800; kept old GPU) because I need to compile stuff (WFH gig); old PC becomes NAS
- 2023 - new CPU, mobo, and GPU (~$600) because NAS uses way too much power since I’m now running it 24/7, and it’s just as expensive to upgrade the NAS as to upgrade the PC and downcycle
So for ~$2200, I got a PC for ~15 years and a NAS (drive costs excluded) for ~7 years. That’s less than most prebuilts, and similar to buying a console each gen. If I didn’t have a NAS, the 2023 upgrade wouldn’t have had a mobo, so it would’ve been $400 (just CPU and GPU), and the CPU would’ve been an extreme luxury (1700 -> 5600 is nice for sim games, but hardly necessary). I’m not planning any upgrades for a few years.
Yeah it’s not top of the line, but I can play every game I want to on medium or high. Current specs: Ryzen 5600, RX 6650 XT, 16GB RAM.
People say PC gaming is expensive. I say hobbies are expensive, PC gaming can be inexpensive. This is ~$150/year, that’s pretty affordable… And honestly, I could be running that OG PC from 2009 with just a second GPU upgrade for grand total of $800 over 15 years if all I wanted was to play games.
Almost exact same timeline, prices and specs here. Just went with the RX6600 instead after hardware became somewhat affordable again after crypto hype and COVID. Always bought the mid-lowend stuff of the then actual hardware, if upgraded wanted/needed. It’s good to read of non-highend stuff all the time though.
I only got the 6650 because it was on sale for $200 or something, I was actually looking for the 6600 but couldn’t find a reasonable deal.
I make enough now that I don’t need to be stingy on hardware, but I honestly don’t max the hardware I have so it just seems wasteful. I probably won’t upgrade until either my NAS dies or the next AMD socket comes out (or there’s a really good deal). I don’t care about RTX, VR kinda sucks on Linux AFAIK, and I think newer AAA games kinda suck.
I’ll upgrade if I can’t play something, but my midrange system is still fine. I’m expecting no upgrades for 3-5 more years.
They’re mad they spent 1k$ on a gpu and still can’t do 4k without upscaling on the newest crapware games
I thought anon was the normie? The average person doesnt upgrade their PC every two years. The average person buys a PC and replaced it when nothing works anymore. Anon is the normie, they are the enthusiasts. Anon is not hanging with a group of people with matching ideologies.
I upgraded last year from i7-4700k to i7-12700k and from GTX 750Ti to RTX 3060Ti, because 8 threads and 2GB of vram was finally not enough for modern games. And my old machine still runs as a home server.
The jump was huge and I hope I’ll have money to upgrade sooner this time, but if needed I can totally see that my current machine will work just fine in 6-8 years.
My current PC used for gaming is a self built one from 2014. I have upgraded a few things during the years, most notably GPU and memory, but it did an excellent job for over a decade. Recently it started to show its age with various weird glitches and also some performance issues in several newer games and so I’ve just ordered a new one. But I’m pretty proud of my sustainable computing achievement.
I’m still rocking the 4790K. It’s been a damn good CPU.
I will drive the 1660 Super until the wheels fall off
Maybe it’s just my CPU or something wrong with my setup, but i feel like new games (especially ones that run on Unreal Engine 5) really kick my computers ass at 1440p. Just got the 7900xtx last year and using a ryzen 9 3900xt i got from 2020 for reference. I remember getting new cards like 10 years ago and being able to crank the settings up to max with no worries, but nowadays I feel I gotta worry about lowering settings or having to resort to using upscaling or frame generation.
Games dont feel very optimized anymore, so I can see why people might be upgrading more frequently thinking it’s just their pc being weak. I miss the days where we could just play games in native resolution.
Unrel engine is also a pig on resources. I don’t bother games that use it on my Steam Deck because I know they won’t run well
Devs are heavily depending on the crutch of upscaling and framegen for new games.
I also have a 2014-ish desktop. Over the years added an SSD and replaced the graphics card around 5 years ago.
I can still run most games on medium settings, even some new ones if they are properly optimized, but nothing crazy, 1080p.
I just started to feel that my rig is getting slower and even AA games become more demanding.
I fully support using hardware as long as possible to minimise e-waste and see no reason to upgrade a PC every 2-3 years.
Edit: typo
My old builds go to the wife and her old PCs upgrade my NAS. By the time I’m done using the hardware it’s 10-12 years old. Wife only plays sims anyways. 2080 super is her upgrade to an AM4 3900x and 64gb of ram and 2) 2TB nvme drives. She will get plenty of life from that and then in 5 years, get my current rig. Cycle continues.
see no reason to upgrade a PC every 2-3 years.
Like as in upgrading a component everyone few years? Sure.
Updating the entire rig everything few years? For the average user, very little point. It used to be you literally had to, to play them newest games. Around 00’s I’d say. Games are way more backward compatible nowadays. I had a rig from 2012, to which I updated GPU to a 1060 6gb in 2016. Now I updated the entire rig last year, except for the GPU, which I plan to updated in a few months when 5070/5060ti comes out.
For the average gamer I don’t think there’s really much need to update more than every five years and that’s still being pretty fresh. I can still play on the 1060, even Marvels runs although… eh. My GPU is clearly the bottleneck currently.
With a 5060/5070 I hope to manage till 2030 at least.
Still rocking two GTX660s in SLI, they run solitaire and lemmy alright. Even upgraded the thing to Win11 against its wishes
I built a PC in 2011 with an AMD Phenom II. Can’t remember which one, it may have been a 740. And I’m pretty sure a Radeon HD 5450 until FO4 came out in 2015 and I needed a new graphics card. Upgraded to a Radeon R7 240, and some other AM3 socketed CPU I found for like, $40 on eBay. By no means was I high end gaming over here. And it stayed that way until 2020, when I finally gutted the whole thing and started over. It ran everything I wanted to play. So I got like, 9 years out of about $600 in parts. That’s including disc drives, power supply, case, and RAM. And I’m still using the case. I got my money’s worth out of it, for sure. The whole time we were in our apartment, it was hooked up to our dumb TV. So, it was our only source of Netflix, YouTube, DVDs, and Blu-rays. It was running all the time. Then, I gave all the innards to my buddy to make his dad a PC for web browsing. It could still be going in some form, as far as I know.
I remember the 5450! I got one when wrath of the lich king dropped because my Dell integrated graphics couldn’t handle strand of the ancients. That baby got me from 2 FPS to 15. Served me until I left for school.
I barely remember it, which is think is a compliment because it just worked! Never had any driver issues or temperature problems, didn’t demand too much power. It just did its job until I needed something more.
