• Optional@lemmy.worldOP
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    Fun Fact: This section of Project 2025 was written by Christopher Miller.

    You might know him from such things as “On January 5, Miller issued orders which prohibited deploying D.C. Guard members with weapons, helmets, body armor or riot control agents without his personal approval.”

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    Cool, but we also take Finland’s law about tuition: it’s illegal to charge it.

    No private schools. It’s done wonders for their society because the rich people invest in the same schools as everyone else.

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      Ok, but also I see this causing populist style attacks on disabled kids too. Especially those with invisible or “minor but valid” disabilities that disqualify.

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    My school had us all take it at 16.

    If you refused you had to go sit in the cafeteria by yourself and weren’t allowed to even study. Just sit there with your eyes open not doing anything for like 4 hours.

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      I went to high school during peace time — that used to be a thing way back when — and I think my school required it for ROTC but maybe it was more of a strong suggestion rather than a requirement.

      We also had possibly the worst possible system for military recruiters. You had to choose between the regular P.E. class, weight lifting (if you played a sport), and ROTC. The end result was that ROTC was always like 2% committed future service members (who would have joined the military with or without high school ROTC) and 98% awkward people avoiding sports at all cost. (Or the worst fate of all, 1st hour PE so you were the person who smelled like stanky teen gym clothes in every one of your classes.)

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        People here don’t want a real tangible way out of their money problems.

        It was a good start for me as well but people on Lemmy really don’t want to hear it.

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      My school had us all take it at 16.

      If you refused you had to go sit in the cafeteria by yourself and weren’t allowed to even study. Just sit there with your eyes open not doing anything for like 4 hours.

      Every time I hear stories like this, it reminds me of my old high school. As it was the only public school in the city and there were no alternatives, it was damn near impossible to actually get expelled unless you were physically threatening or dealing cocaine in the halls.

      They tried punishments like this too for a variety of reasons. Not being ready for gym class, or some hands-on class that requires a uniform. In-school suspension for minor infractions. Dress code violations. Stuff like that. They were happy that most of the kids bothered to show up and not cause problems at all. Kids were gonna sit there with their headphones on, head on a desk, and probably taking a nap. Attempting to tell the kids they couldn’t do that was probably going to be met with a middle finger. What were you gonna do, suspend them? That’s what they wanted in the first place. It was a 3 day vacation to them.

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      Ask one of the schmucks advocating for this to be the first to enlist and I bet they’ll have some bullshit excuse as to why they can’t

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    We could start the first war fought by dropping rich people from drones!

    No wait… dropping rich people on fire from drones. That’s better. We might run out of rich people, but they will run out of rich people first!

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      We’d need a wide range of rich people munitions if we wanted to fight a war. Armor-piercing rich people, incendiary rich people, cluster rich people, high-explosive rich people. It’ll be quite the endeavor.

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        Doritos are really flammable. I wonder if we just feed a rich guy Doritos if it will do the trick. But you’re right, that’s just one type. How can we make a rich guy more stiff? Stuff enough for armor piercing. This will take quite a bit of lead pills.

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    For those not familiar with it, it is an aptitude test that covers a wide range of topics. The results can be informational. Beware if you score well enough to fill a job in the army that is really understaffed, you will never get the recruiters to stop calling.

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      I wonder how low you have to score before the military doesn’t bother to recruit you, because I had to take the ASBAV in high school and I just filled in bubbles at random since I had no interest in dying in Iraq. I still got a high enough score that recruiters kept bothering me for years.

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      We took it senior year and I really didn’t know about it at the time. I must have flipped some switch because every branch started calling, and a navy recruiter actually came to my house wanting to talk about nuke school. I was like I don’t want to bomb anyone with nukes thank you very much lol.

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        NPS ‘nuke school’ focuses mainly on shipboard nuclear power plant operation, like nuclear powered subs.

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        I took it, had an army recruiter show up a year later and asked to speak with me. My mom said I had already enlisted, the guy goes, “Oh, we already got em?”

        “No, the Navy did, he left for bootcamp last fall.”

        Also had my recruiter step between the Navy MEPS guy and I to tell him to fuck off and find me a job I wanted. He would not let the nuke thing go, and my recruiters already knew I had no interest and backed my other job choices. 😂

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      I scored high on all fields but one and the recruiter never left me alone for four years, even finding me on Facebook.

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    You’d be surprised how many private schools receive federal funding.

    But honestly this isn’t the worst thing. As long as it’s interacted with in an honest manner the ASVAB is an excellent career test. So an honest interaction with it would be counselors telling students their results and showing them career paths that line up with those results. To be clear, we’re talking about civilian career paths.

    The problem is I don’t hear about it being done that way anymore. (My highschool did exactly the above) I only hear about it being used by recruiters, for recruiting.

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      When I took my asvab I was surprised when they told me my mechanical aptitude was really good…didn’t know a Phillips from a flat head but wound up as an aircraft mechanic which was fuckin dope!

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        Oh God, I was an idiot. My recruiter said I qualified for everything. I told him I wanted to be an Airborne Infantryman. He repeated, Everything, could write my own ticket. So I decided… To double down on an Airborne School and Infantry contract. If I could go back in time I’d give that man a beer, slap myself, and forge my own signature on a military intelligence analyst contract. I’d have loved that job, learning languages, embassy postings (travel), and being all up in everyone’s tea. But no 17 year old Maggoty had to be a dumbass.

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        Having the right paperworks and acting on said paperwork are two unrelated things in the military.

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    The wars of the future will be between big ass companies using drones, espionage, hacking, assassins, etc. it won’t involve us poor commoners anyway.

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    Can we do something about making the Selective Service more equitable? Why is it that Men are the only ones that have to register for the draft? We have plenty of women serving in the armed forces, make everyone have to register.

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    WTF is this about? I showed up stoned from skipping class in 10th grade and took the ASVAB back in the day. I placed in the top 1% of the nation not remembering a single question. I was told I qualified for any position in the military. I got DQ’d so it was for nothing. Why is this an issue now?

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      Armed services don’t have enough recruits, so they want a bigger pool to chose from. If every kid has to take ASVAB, then they have a much bigger pool of possibilities, including being able to actively recruit better suited people. The other point was to expand jROTC, to do exactly that.

      I had no interest in the military but took ASVAB thinking of it as practice for SAT, which I did care about. However the tests were different enough to not be good practice, plus then I was constantly recruited by all branches. I expect they want to be able to do more of this