So far we have three people that have made the same comment about not being the front view. I’m using copy comments as TP tomorrow.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      I use a bidet, I still need TP to clean up after the water does the job.

      I know fancy bidets exist that will blow dry your arae, but what do I look like? A rich person? We got ours from Amazon for like $20.

      TP use is way down, but it’s still needed in many cases.

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          A bidet ain’t 100% clean. Sometimes there is small residue which you notice when you dry with toilet paper. I got a handheld bidet btw and since installing it 10y ago I really hate pooping without.

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      Depends on the cat. If they’re simply going with tapping the roll to spin it, that may work for a bit. I’ve found that rolls accessible to a cat tend to morph into big balls of clawed unusable pulp.

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        When I was a young kid, I had a cat that was front-declawed (this was before it was well known that it’s an abusive practice - my folks didn’t know better at the time). Because he couldn’t shred the paper with his claws, he showed his spite by chewing up the roll so it looked like he’d clawed it. Didn’t matter which direction the roll was.

        I loved that cat. He was so smart.

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      Why not just shut the door so the cat doesn’t get in there? The toilet paper being hung correctly is more important than the cat for me.

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        One of my cats knows how to open doors like a fucking velociraptor. We’ve baby locked several of our doors but some things like the bathroom I don’t like fucking around with extra steps when trying to get into at 3am

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          Oh hey, my fear. Do you have door knobs, or uh - the flat handled kind that swing down or up? I just realized I don’t know what those lever like door handles are called.

          I can hear one of my cats pawing at the door knob at night, he’d be getting in places he shouldn’t if we had those flat kind.

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    Not the best patent to use if you want to settle the debate. This one from Wheeler is the nail in the coffin: patent

    It also shows why it was over and not under as at the time, the TP holder was a hanging wire, which kept the paper against the wall. Not protruding out like todays hangers.

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          Honestly I sometimes wonder how I did it, because my cats listen to me and rarely do something I don’t want them to.

          Im firm with them, never loud, never hit them or push them. Consistency might be the key. Always tell them no the same way, as many times as it takes. I’ll give them something else to play with if they’re ripping something up too.

          They’re smart, if you spend the time with them.

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    I see we’ve got some really strong opinions going on here. Just wanna remind everyone to keep it friendly and civil.

    And on that note, all you weirdos who place it behind are wrong and I will die on this hill.

    Fight me.

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    People here be discussing the wrong thing, or am I the only one thinking that patenting a roll of paper is incredibly stupid?

    It’s a damn roll of paper. How much of a genius do you have to be to come up with that? People have been doing it for millennia, the only difference is that it used to be so expensive that no one would think of whipping their butts with it.

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      The patent was the tp roll but more so the angular serations that terminate short of the center, so a tearable roll of paper rather than a strip role that had to be torn manually or cut

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        So the innovation that was patented is literally “cut it partway through”.

        Patents are inherently stupid and only serve to stifle progress. Change my mind or otherwise just downvote away, works as well.

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          They are stupid, but helped inventors recoup development costs. It gets abused now, especially with patent trolls. The invention here moved TP from a roll you had to cut or tear, to self tearing segments with enough attached at center that it pulled roll forward…smart at the time…we take this idea of perforated sheets for granted now

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        In Australia spiders like to hang out in places like where the outer layer of TP sits as it is a good hiding place for them. Especially Red Backs. Huntsmen like it too but will only kill by a jump scare caused heart attack.

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    The proper way to hang it, if you have cats, is the other way so they don’t bat it all off if the get access. This is why I do not have cats.

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      My cat has not once tried unraveling a toilet paper roll. He has stolen money before, but he steals shit, so that’s normal. But never toilet paper.

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        Oh, man. My mother had cats who would just attack tp or paper towels. We had them both hanging the ‘correct’ way, got tired of it and flipped em. Now, though, I stick to dogs lol

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        Haha mine will take coins off the table, and carry it off to her hiding spot. It’s the cutest thing. I got her a small box of toy pirate coins.

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      Bad design. Toilet paper not currently in use must be stored outside the bathroom so that it doesn’t become damp and musty from the humidity. As opposed to on the wet floor next to the dewy toilet. This is how you get a nasty fungal infection fyi

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        If you have humidity problems in your bathroom, get a small electric dehumidifier. They’re less than 30 bucks and they’ll fix it right up.

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        Being in the general vicinity of mold won’t give you a fungal infection unless you don’t wash. I recommend against placing toilet paper directly inside your rectum or vagina, however.

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        If the bathroom and toilet are “dewy” the bad design falls on the house itself.

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          In hot, humid climates the toilet bowl itself will have condensation that sweats down the outside in my experience. YMMV

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            Oooh. That makes more sense.

            In less humid/hot locations, this isn’t really an issue. The outside of the bowl is cold, but rarely collects condensation.

            The only way for it to get wet and create a problem is when guys have bad aim and don’t have the decency to sit down because of their bad aim.

            If you use the TP after that, you get what’s coming to you.

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          LOL my god, I was gonna say. OP apparently lacks a rudimentary immune system as well. Or, is shoving that tp way, way too deep. And leaving it there.

          My wife got me to install a bidet. Can’t remember to try it. Been 8-months, still forget.

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              I’ve had a bidet for years and never used it. The rest of my family does, but I have no interest.

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                  Eh, different strokes for different butts. I don’t see how having a wet/moist ass is more efficient. I have one, and don’t use it unless I’m particularly interested…in extra cleanliness. It’s not for everyone.