Trump and Biden's mics will be muted to prevent cross-talk
  • credo@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The poor performance and miserable result of this debate is not an indicator the format is bad, it is an indictment of our media circus that has given us these candidates in the first place.

    This is proof our system is fucked and I hope to god we don’t “fix” this by going back to letting opponents talk all over each other just to put on a good an entertaining show.

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Why did anyone watch this debate? Were you expecting to learn something new? Are you on the fence and hoping this would help you make up your mind? I mean, the Trump people are going to vote for Trump, and the Biden people are going to vote for Biden, regardless, so it seems like a complete waste of time.

  • KaRunChiy@kbin.run
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    5 months ago

    holy shit that jan 6 question just dropped and as soon as trump started talking bullshit, biden just looked so so annoyed and pained lol

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      Trump has just flat out refused to answer several questions… the moderators have brought questions back a few time - I don’t think Dana just saying “that’s a lie” would be productive but I think Trump’s evasion got well highlighted.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    I could only make it like five minutes, but this is a great summary by the AP:

    In first half hour of debate, a raspy Biden has delivered rambling answers that sometimes trail off as he defends his policies and record.

    Trump has countered with falsehoods on issues including the economy, abortion and NATO members’ defense spending.

    The two have also exchanged deeply personal attacks.

    https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates

    Edit:

    Biden was talking about “saving Israel” too. Despite the vast majority pissed at how he’s handling it.

    The conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians is an especially vulnerable spot for Biden. With only 26% of U.S. adults approving of his handling of the issue, it’s well below his overall approval rating (39%). In the latest AP-NORC poll, nearly 6 in 10 Democrats disapprove of his approach to the conflict.

    He’s completely out of touch with what voters want. I have zero idea how anyone could think risking trump as president is worth giving an 82 year old we don’t want another term in office.

    Why are we running someone Dem voters actually want?

    That 26% of people that approve of what he’s doing with Israel is all US adults, including trump supporters. It’s not even 26% of Dems…

    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      A lot of people are saying that. My staff told me that just before I came out here as a matter of fact. History’s worst debate in the history of the world. A lot of people are saying that.

  • TheBigBrother@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Beside preferring Trump or Biden, what the fuck Americans have with cadaver like people?, these both fuckers should be retired since like 10 years ago not kidding…

      • TheBigBrother@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Maybe Andrew Tate would be a better president than both of these old fucks…

        Hookers and Bugattis for everyone…

              • TheBigBrother@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                I believe you have never know someone with dementia, rapists are definetly bad also, people with dementia live in a nonexistent reality and are incapable of rationalization. TBH all three options are shitty options the longer you live the more you realize American polítics are a fucking joke…

                • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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                  5 months ago

                  My thing is… Biden can be a complete fucking train wreck but he’s going to be surrounded by relatively sane people. Trump would be surrounded by Stephen Miller and other fucking clowns - Tate would probably pull Peterson or some other asshat into his cabinet.

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      America has a broken political system. It needs to change and there are legitimate attempts - but this is the choice we have.

  • Hildegarde@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    What even is the point of this debate? They’ve both had a term in office. We know how both of them actually govern the actual country. What can this debate possibly convey that the past 8 years of governance hasn’t?

    • 555@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Whatever the point was, it’s a very sad show. Trump is a liar and Biden can’t string a sentence together.

      We’re all fucked.

      • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip
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        5 months ago

        Yep, thats my impression as well so far.

        Trump is confidently blazing through (what should be) obvious lies, while Biden is mumbling and forgetting what he is trying to say half way through saying it.

        • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Yeah, he’s getting blasted by a firehose of bullshit. Though he seems to be getting pissed off, and that seems to be helping.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          I dont know why, but moderates keep acting like charisma doesn’t matter.

          They just keep repeating that money is what matters, because they’re good at taking money from people they shouldnt. But they’re bad at getting votes, people just don’t like them. Partly because of what they do for that money.

      • dalekcaan@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Someone down voted you but I can’t imagine why. I desperately want Biden to win but he looks like shit out there. Trump, meanwhile, is confidently spouting whatever horseshit pops into his head (even had the fucking gall to call Biden a criminal). Half the government is gleefully destroying the country and the other half is letting them. I honestly don’t see a way forward for this country. I don’t like to be a cynic but I cannot imagine a scenario where the next four years aren’t an absolute clusterfuck.

        • 555@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          Yeah. I had to turn it off. I’ll be surprised if Biden wins after this.

  • randon31415@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Could we seal Biden in a germ-free bubble a week before the next debate? The last thing you want Biden sounding like is sickly - he had a cold today and COVID last time they debated in 2020.