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  • Communist_Synthesizer@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 months ago

    Maybe you don’t want to hear that your chosen is a pedo. But seeing as you won’t accept anything that didn’t come directly from his mouth that we have video evidence of, I went with something you absolutely can’t refute.

    So now you’re stuck defending incest, while I get to point out all the pedophile shit he did.

    You know you don’t have to debase yourself like this.

    Really, is this guy worth it?

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      Nah man, you had access to tons of pictures to show that Trump is most probably a pedo but decided to use a picture of him kissing his adult aged daughter which would make him incestuous.

      So the picture is unrelated to the message, it’s just not a very good meme…

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        3 months ago

        Does this work for you? It’s from when she was underage?

        How about this?

        Or this?

        And then there’s this.

        Think that’s enough evidence to show that he’s had a very inappropriate relationship with his daughter for a very long time?

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          Some of those are… odd. A couple of them look like many dad’s I know that love their family.

          More than posed photos, I think it’s his comments and general behavior and ethos that makes me suspicious of his relationship, which is why these photos seem really gross.

          Like if you just saw a daughter hop on her dad’s lap and give him a kiss on the cheek, I don’t think anyone would bat an eye. But because Trump is such a well-documented amoral sleaze, it hits waaay different.

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            I have a 14-year-old. Her sitting on my lap for a posed photo would be pretty inappropriate. Her just doing it at all would be inappropriate. This isn’t a 6-year-old. This is a fully pubescent teenager. That is not how you relate to her in a healthy way.

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              3 months ago

              You’re pushing something just for the sake of trying to be right. If your boundaries are so rigid with your own daughter that you genuinely would not allow her at 14 to sit on your lap for a photo, and then you mentioned pubescent being a criteria for how you relate to her, then it is pretty clear that you’re the one with a serious problem. That, or just a liar.

              You’re highlighting distinctions and drawing rigid moral boundaries that truthfully are not relevant when it’s your own daughter. Unless one of you for some reason is uncomfortable with it which is just a personal thing that varies between people, you thinking that your daughter sitting on your lap for a photo at 14 is wrong because she’s- as you said it, not 6 but fully pubescent - dude you are the one with a problem because you just sexualized your own daughter in your eyes. Please talk to a mental health professional about that because that is a bit alarming. That kind of mathematical approach is how ultra-religious types deal with these things and that’s because it hardens back to a time when girls were married off at ages as young as 9. It’s sick and unhealthy.

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                3 months ago

                If you say so. I’m far from the only person who finds the whole thing highly inappropriate.

                Also, I “sexualized” my own daughter because she’s a human being who went through puberty like most people do. Have you not done so?

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                  I’m not talking about any “whole thing” I was only addressing specifically your way of seeing it as inappropriate the notion of your own daughter sitting on your lap for a photo at 14.

                  Is it odd? Yeah! It’s unusual because at that age most girls feel like it’s too childlike to sit on the lap of a father, so they would likely not want to. But that’s not what we’re talking about. You called it inappropriate. She’s your daughter; there’s nothing wrong with it inherently. You pointed to her pubescence as the reasoning; that’s really weird. Again - she’s your own child.

                  Maybe you really meant something a little different, like that it would be unusual because people often don’t want to be seen as so much younger than they are, but your referring to it as having an objectively amoral nature is not good.

                  And yes you sexualized her, that doesn’t mean anything to do with physical sexual maturity. In this context it means you viewed her with sexual desire attached. Most fathers see their own daughters as their babies, even into adulthood. We can’t help it; it’s called love. A father who sees his daughter in a sexual light, is in need of some help, for real.

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        Uh. I’d like to throw out there that kissing your adult kids isn’t incest. Different cultures have different levels of comfort around this, but a peck on the mouth is a bit much to criticize.

        That is not to say him inviting his TEENAGE daughter to meet Epstein is not a massive issue, or commenting on her body, shit like that.

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          Doing it like you were going to French kiss her though? Let’s not forget his past comments on her subject as well…