The decision by President Joe Biden to pardon his son, Hunter, despite previously suggesting he would not do so, has reopened debate over the use of the presidential pardon.
LOL, “debate”.
The qons do whatever the hell they want, and dare anyone to push back. If anyone even clears their throat, the right cries about being “cancelled” or whatever.
Ethical standards. Don’t make me fucking laugh.
We want to elect a president who is a convicted fraudster, found to have committed a sexual assault, who incited people to overthrow the government and murder is VP then watched excitedly while it went down, and who has promised to suspend our rights to punish anyone who questions him…
And then, we want to talk about presidential ethics?
Yeah, no. That ship has sailed. Ethics will get much much worse, because that’s what voters clearly selected. Lets not pretend anyone gives a shit.
Lmao the false equivalence is absolutely deafening
As soon as a democrat does it, everyone suddenly cares? We should do this more often, clearly the magats need to see an example before they’ll agree to fix the loopholes.
It’s easy to expect perfection from your opponents while crying about whataboutism when someone points out their side has done the same.
Trump: Filling his cabinet with conflicted individuals and loyalists, many of whom have had legal troubles and been pardoned by him.
Biden: Pardons a family member who has never held government office for a drug-related offence.
And which story dominates the news cycle? The media is more than complicit in the resurgence of fascism in this country.
The media is more than complicit in the resurgence of fascism in this country.
YUP.
Thing that’s been dominating the news cycle for weeks is momentarily less dominant than thing that happened just yesterday.
Must be because people are so unfair to that troubled youth who just needed help, Hunter Biden. Has nothing to do with Joe Biden promising to use presidential powers to pardon the indigent, disproportionately-black group of people who went to jail for possessing weed and instead using the powers specifically for his 54 year old millionaire son.
Biden already pardoned everyone convicted of possessing weed. The only “non-violent” cannabis offenders in federal prison are dealers.
Just this year there have been 200,000 weed related arrests, and thousands imprisoned because simple possession is still illegal in lots of the US.
And how many of those are federal arrests not state arrests?
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If a nazi uses the n word…
No one is surprised.
When your only other option also uses it, that doesn’t make it ok because they didn’t mean to say it in public intentionally.
When you settle for “a slip” and say that’s ok, the only thing you’re doing is making it easier for people to act like the nazi isn’t that bad. Because you’ve normalized it
If Biden wants to “take the low road” then fucking take it and do some good for the American people. Don’t do it only for purely selfish reasons.
That is why people are upset with Biden about this
It’s like saying it’s ok to steal food for your starving family to justify stealing, then you just eat all the food yourself.
There’s a lot Biden can do to help Americans still, he just doesn’t give a fuck.
I don’t care about this pardon because it’s a crime around bullshit that affects nobody, and has only gone the way it has due to political nonsense. The vast majority of drug offenses are similar.
I disagree with Trump’s pardons because he has literally surrounded himself with career criminals, asked them to do criminal things, and pardoned them when they got in trouble for it.
Only one of these two is institutionalized corruption.
Sounds like a trump supporter arguing gun laws need revoked…
Like, you realize he wasn’t charged for smoking crack.
He had charges for buying a gun while on crack, trying to throw it away by a school. And then it not being there when going back to get it.
The vast majority of drug offenses are similar.
The vast amount of cannabis probably. But not Crackheads.
Do you honestly believe habitual crack use that results in multiple trips to rehab isn’t a reason for someone to not be able to possess a gun?
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised, just holding out hope for the party for some stupid reason.
What I’ve been seeing today tho, Dems have gone full trump and will excuse anything and always say they’re party had a reason for personal corruption and not helping the public
You are a prime case for Biden derangement syndrome. Jfc
That’s a fair criticism of Biden, but Biden wasn’t being criticized by that comment, rather the media coverage was. The media has consistently shrugged their shoulders and acted like nothing was wrong as Trump time and time again utterly violates both conventions and laws, but the moment anyone not in the MAGA-sphere puts even a toe out of line it’s treated as a huge scandal. Should Joe have pardoned Hunter? No it undermines the entire message of nobody is above the law, but at the same time it’s such a trivial thing in the face of the absolute and complete disregard of both morals and laws shown by Trump and his team daily.
In the face of such blatant double standards the media’s rush to clutch their pearls in this case just rings as exceptionally hollow.
I disagree that he shouldn’t have pardoned Hunter. Hunter went through the legal system with no advantages, reached a plea deal that was perfectly normal for any regular citizen, only to have Republicans blow it up to have something to beat Joe over the head with. Hunter has paid his late taxes with fines. The only remaining issue was him lying on his form about being on drugs while buying a gun. They were going to throw him under the prison for that dumb shit.
But yeah, Joe needs to go on a pardon spree. Trump established that new norm last time.
Should Joe have pardoned Hunter? No it undermines the entire message of nobody is above the law
I disagree. Hunter’s prosecution was political in nature. Anyone else accused of the same crimes would not have faced even close to what he did. If it were anyone else I would still want Biden to pardon him.
I am honestly completely indifferent to Biden pardoning Hunter. My beef is with the media. This impacts the life of 1 person: Hunter Biden. They’re giving it wall to wall coverage because it’s drama and they’re reality TV calling themselves journalists.
My beef is with the media. This impacts the life of 1 person: Hunter Biden
My beef is with Biden, because even if the only thing he can do is pardon people, Hunter ain’t the only one trump will go after
You telling me Hunter needs protected more than Fauci?
Even if so, why isn’t Biden pardoning the other people as well
The issue is Biden isn’t doing more, same issue as the last four years
While he’s at it can he give me a pardon as well? Never know trump might be upset with what we say here. /s
All that Americans have left, on both sides I might add, is the desire to see the other side suffer. Republicans have been doing this for a while. The Trump presidency will disenfranchise the Democrats to the same level, evening the playing field.
This is where America is at now. Just angry people with nothing left but to hurt some scapegoats.
The only question is is this a race to the bottom (bottom being a civil war killing millions), or will the public wake the fuck up?
on both sides
Really? What Democratic politicians are setting out to try to harm people? And what specific policies?
People really just want their team to hurt or piss off the other side.
It really ain’t gonna be long till both sides are firmly “us/them” and the rich will keep making the poor’s fight each other.
It’s fucking embarrassing
This is what does it? I’m not a fan of the nepotism, but there were plenty of worse cases that should’ve renewed the debate. Doesn’t give me much hope for whatever comes out of this “debate”.
No this is faux outrage.
These people get angry at literally anything they are told to get angry at.
You’d think Trump and Giuliani selling pardons for $2 million a piece would be a much bigger example.
Fucking good. The pardon power is bullshit and we ought to pull it the fuck out of the constitution. I’m glad Brandon pardoned his son, though, I hope republicans go apoplectic. Those cunts ushered in this era of lawlessness, why the fuck should we play ball? Sort out your twice-impeached rapist felon traitor president, cunts. Don’t step to me with this Hunter Biden bullshit. Fuck off and die.
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Joe Biden is an embarrassment. This is another reason why the US chose trump, democrats have proven to be no different than the GOP. The republicans are honest about how corrupt they are. What a fucking sad state
Yeah one has pardoned his son, while the other has raped children, been good friends with Epstein, is a felon, lies frequently, and has attempted overthrow the US government. They’re totally the same thing!
Epstein’s friend Bill Clinton? But seriously, they are NOT the same, but they are both own by the same people…and neither really care about the average person.
Wtf are you talking about? I’m talking about the recently elected president of the United States, Trump, and the president that is just leaving the position, Biden. You show me a picture of Epstein and Clinton? Fuck Bill Clinton if he did do BS with Epstein, but the point is, OUR INCOMING PRESIDENT WAS GOOD FRIENDS WITH EPSTEIN! It feels like you’re trying to make up some comparison that doesn’t exist.
You come this thread with wHaT aBoUt trUmP?! …when all I was saying is that Biden is shit. See how whataboutism is ridiculous? Both suck spend your time better
You:
democrats have proven to be no different than the GOP.
Me:
Yeah one has pardoned his son, while the other has raped children, been good friends with Epstein, is a felon, lies frequently, and has attempted overthrow the US government.
That’s not what aboutism, that’s directly addressing your false equivalency. The GOP and the Democrats are absolutely not the same. Then you bring up Epstein and Bill Clinton, but sure I’m the one bringing up random people. The GOP supports traitors, the DNC does not.
