Jebus, stop trying to find a single group to blame, it’s the entire god damn American public that’s at fault.
White, Latino, Blacks, Asians, men, women, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, progressives, everyone in America knew who Trump and Republicans are and screwed the pooch and the entirety of America.
I feel like the main takeaway is more that everyone expected dumb white people to vote Trump. No one expected the very people he’s openly said he’s gonna fuck over to vote for him.
I had no idea that the Amish vote. I guess I just never thought of it, but I always got isolationist vibes from what I know.
The grossest thing about the racist recriminations over Harris’ loss is that the racial group that makes up 70% of the electorate and the vast majority of Trump voters is somehow blameless, clean, and without blemish.
It seems like every minority is only as good as their latest contribution to the movement, while white liberals are always welcome to flow in and out every election cycle like a goddamn tide.
Conservatives have mocked us for decades with terms like bleeding heart and woke because they see us betraying those values at the fist sign of trouble. And they’re right.
That’s not what those terms mean or why they are used as insults.
And, generally speaking, a few ethnic/gender groups changed their voting strategies this election, while others didn’t. The articles calling out different demographics are pointing out reality. Those shifts affected the results of the election.
That’s why they are being pointed out, instead of pointing out that one group did exactly what was expected of them and what they did last time, and the time before, and the time before…
So I’d challenge you that it’s not recriminations or gross, it’s simply pointing out what changed and how it led to us being in our current spot. You can’t fix things/change course without understanding where you are.
Is that it? I always was confused how bleeding heart is an insult like you wanna shame people for… idk caring too much? For the wrong kind of people?
It’s an insult for being to sympathetic/empathetic and soft.
Ultimately meaning that if push came to shove, a bleeding heart would be so caught up in caring that they would fail to make a tough decision.
Its not just that. Its refering to people expressing extreme performative empathy, backed up self serving or useless actions. There are liberal grifters out there, just like there are conservative ones, and the phrase is used to label a person as one of them.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bleeding-heart-phrase-origin-meaning
The word’s always been pretty straightforward. I’ve never seen it mean anything performative. It’s always just a soft and empathetic person to a harmful degree.
The way its used in conservative circles in the 21st and late 20nd centuries does mean that they see the empathy as performative and either self serving or naive, not that they think the person simply cares too much. Up until about a decade ago they might have even seen empathy as a noble trait, as long as it was backed up by personal action.
Based on your response, I’m guessing you didn’t read about the history of the phrase that I linked, which explains what it meant and how it was used in the early, mid, and late 20th century. As well as the 21st century.
Just because you think something means something doesn’t mean it’s true.
I see this blame of various groups, of Harris of Democrats often one contradicting the other, but almost no one is acknowledging that we are in the middle of information warfare. We saw is effects in invasion of crimes in 2014, in brexit in 2016, trump election of the same year, across elections in Europe and still very little is done about it.
When some people were asked about why they voted for trump their answers were bizarre, out of touch with reality.
Today majority of people gets the news from social media which unlike traditional MSM is much more prone to be manipulated by foreign powers. Russia especially matters it, add their active measures developed during cold war work really well with current Internet.
The blame is on politically uneducated people coming to vote based on culture war nonsense. It’s that simple, but yall love to protect these people to not hurt their feelings.
The manipulation is affecting others as well. You want to see how well it works, look how pro Russia candidate in Romania who no one knew won first round, and might win the next one.
It’s my fault even though I voted against it? Checks out.
Yes. It’s called collective responsibility.
It’s called mental laziness
We either are, or are not a country. If you absolve yourself of responsibility because you didn’t personally vote [for Trump] then there’s no impetus to make the country better. After all you’re just a passenger. You gave up your agency.
Edit- I missed a couple words. I never meant to say they didn’t vote.
This is just some weird line of thought you came up with but it stands up to no scrutiny. Where it falls apart even more obviously is if you look at the more authoritarian governments around the world. Go ahead, blame those victims too and see how much sense it makes. But we don’t even have a democracy in the United States. The popular vote doesn’t matter as long as the gerrymandering worked as intended (which is often).
The only way your logic would hold up at all is if there were some international program that let people move for free to another country if they didn’t like what was going on in theirs. Because that would never ever exist, and so much is beyond our control, it’s just braindead to pretend otherwise.
Ps I voted and said so. Not sure why you’re saying I didn’t. My whole point is that we don’t get to victim blame those who did their part to stop this evil
Oh you voted Harris so you’re a victim now? Nobody has any sympathy for the people who did nothing but vote in those autocratic regimes. And throwing away your own agency certainly doesn’t make you a victim. We’re all in this no matter who we voted for.
Lol Stein supporters somehow miss how incredibly delusional they are
Who said anything about Stein?
Ah yes, right up there with marginalizing an entire group of people despite a lack of evidence. Oh, wait, it’s exactly that. 50% or less of American voters voted for Trump.
Less than 50% out of those who voted. If we were looking at everyone eligible to vote it would be closer to 25%, for whatever that is worth. I blame people for not voting, that really pisses me off, but at the same time it’s getting harder and harder to blame people for losing hope of anything worth voting for. If trump can win, I feel like my vote is worth even less than it ever was.
If we’re not all responsible then we don’t have any agency and it’s all over already. Nobody looks back at Germany and says, but what about the people who voted for the other parties?
The entire American public? Trump won 50% or less of the vote. Stop spreading misinformation, you clown.
By marginalizing all of us that voted against him, you’re only empowering him. Fuck you.
If there’s a single group responsible it’s the Democrats.
They’re trying to cast blame around because if they can pin it on anyone else then they won’t have to change. The problem of course is this time around so many people from different demographics stayed home that it’s hard to pin point any one group. The closest would be the Arab American group in Michigan, but they didn’t actually enter the equation. Michigan always required other states to win as well.
So it’s the Democrats. It turns out hugging war criminals, gaslighting the public on the economy and deriding critics as Russian Shills (Pelosi laid that one on), was not a winning strategy.
To be fair to Harris, she made an outstanding run. The problem was the systemic issues had already set in by the time she took over. The convention was already 90 percent planned, the war chest was mostly allocated, and the staff were all the ones that had been blowing smoke at Biden.
So when I say The Democrats, like a conspiracy theorist uses the word “They”, I mean it. It was the party insiders who didn’t tell Biden he was having trouble in 2023. It was the party insiders who pushed for support of Netanyahu. It was party insiders who couldn’t properly message the victories Biden did have.
The Democrats need to have a very big reckoning in a very small window of time. And it looks like they’re taking the wrong message. With hand ringing over “purity tests” and minority rights. Independent voters didn’t refuse to vote Dem because of high school athletes. They just want an economy that actually works for them. That’s it. After decades of loss in real wages the hierarchy of needs is down to food and shelter. They honestly do not care if the football team has to let a trans person play.
Yeah, latinos did
