• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    If Kamala was a garbage candidate, what does that make Trump?

    For bonus points, how is it not the voters fault considering any rational answer to the above question? You may open your book to look up topical issues like peace, climate, genocide, rights, hate, juvenile bullying, criminal bullying, felony conviction, bigotry (don’t miss misogyny relating to to “garbage candidate”, see above), and tariffs.

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      Turns out, lecturing the voters doesn’t make them want to vote for you. Everything you said is correct, but those weren’t the concerns that resonated. To quote Bill Clinton’s strategist in 92, “it’s the economy, stupid.” Yeah, the economy is doing great right now, but you have to ask, “for who?”

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        I agree that right now, our economists have a terrible way of defining a “good economy”. They have praise for a set of numbers such as the stock market rates, which have almost no connection to the well-being of common people.

        We need more medians and fewer averages; not to measure wealth when it’s spread among the extremes.

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        It’s not the economy, it’s a popularity contest when the majority of the electorate stop choosing candidates based on what they do and have done and instead only pay attention to what they say or choose based on uninformed vibes.

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              Now you’re going to try and nit pick to back peddle? The economy was the star of the show and Kamala didn’t have an easy to understand answer. The messaging, as always, was piss poor from the democrats.

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      10 days ago

      what does that make Trump?

      The 47th POTUS.

      topical issues like peace, climate, genocide, rights, hate, juvenile bullying, criminal bullying, felony conviction, bigotry

      Every single one of those issues was put to measure last week and came up short to “the economy.” Idpol has been the Dem’s running charge since Occupy and has netted them exactly (1) election since Obama’s win as incumbent. It’s just not the winning strategy in national elections.

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          10 days ago

          Exactly. Milquetoast old white man got the most votes of any president ever. Work with that.

          The COVID situation was so specific that it 1) will never happen again, so don’t count on it, and 2) let a single-issue candidate win.

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        None of those issues mattered because the US system showed everyone it did not matter.

        The system had 4 years to enact any form of consequences and there where none. That MUST mean trump was right and it was all lies and nonsense aimed at discrediting him.

        And Trumps campaign ran on idpol this time… is she black? Illegal mexicans in prison getting sex changes, kids getting sex changed… you know, the counter to dem IdPol. They pulled it into the extreme and the Dems took the bait… they did not push back.

        With the blatant lies of the magas and their fragile egos… I think the only thing that might have made a difference is call trump fat and stupid, bully him to his face and see if you can make him throw a tantrum or make him cry. Same with Vance… are you wearing eyeliner? Would you not be more comfortable on a couch?

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      9 days ago

      Trump won. Sadly this means he was the better candidate. Which damning for the Democrats because he’s dog shit.

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      10 days ago

      Ok…

      Weird this hasn’t come up before for you.

      But different people have different standards.

      For Republican voters, it’s usually just the letter by someone’s name.

      Dem voters have always had higher standards than Republican voters.

      For bonus points, how is it not the voters fault

      Because the entire point of a candidates campaign is to get votes. And Kamala and her campaign couldn’t even beat fucking trump.

      For all those reasons you just listed he’s terrible, Kamala still couldn’t beat him.

      What metric do you think a candidate and their campaign should be judged by except number of votes?

      Bonus points:

      Why don’t you think a shit tier opponent wouldnt make it easier? And how can a candidate who can’t beat trump not be considered “garbage”?