• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I’ll never understand why people think the people running the DNC aren’t total fucking liars that will say anything for money.

    Beating trump isn’t hard.

    But beating him while grifting a billion dollar campaign funded by the people your voting base hates is very difficult.

    Unfortunately when confronted with the choice, the DNC has shown us three elections straight that they’ll always pick money over votes.

    So we either need to leave the party or replace leadership.

    If we don’t do either 2028 will be exactly the same as the last three elections.

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        18 days ago

        Don’t you worry, you’ll have an election. Even the Germans had elections during their darkest times. That doesn’t mean you’ll have a choice though.

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        18 days ago

        I lived thru 9/11 and 2016.

        For over 20 years everytime a republican became president I’ve been told we’ll never have another election.

        Maybe this time the wolf is real, but it’s a basic part of human psychology that more and more people will stop having a fear response everytime they hear “wolf”.

        If we really don’t have an election in 2028, we’ll have a civil war before 2032. Maybe what comes after will be better than what we have now.

        It sucks to live in interesting times, but that’s what’s happening.

        This is literally the day after the election, don’t fucking tell me it’s too late to plan how to fix shit for 2028

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          18 days ago

          If it were like 2016 I’d be less worried but taking into account what happened with the 2020 election and now facist rhetoric has reached new heights. They want King Trump and I am worried they will get it.

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            18 days ago

            Shit. I was more worried in 2016.

            He didn’t leave office peacefully, but he still left.

            That’s how human brains work, we avoided the worst case scenario and life moved on. So we run into the same danger, but the response is lowered.

            Which is why Dem turnout was so low this time

            I’ve been saying this would happen for a long time, lots of people were.

            The difference is the people running the DNC are just the people who can raise the most money. And the people with psychology degrees rarely have money as a priority.

            We need to start having a party run by sociologists, psychologists, hell even go back to lawyers

            The current strategy of 80s go-go Reaganites who only care about money ain’t working.

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              17 days ago

              Why were you more worried in 2016? He literally attempted to stage a coup and it failed. That’s why he left. Did you expect him to start an armed insurrection by himself?

              I don’t remember “this may be the last election ever” being a mainstream or credible narrative for any election prior to 2020… you know… The one he tried to make the last election ever.

              Your comment is exceptionally naive, and probably the same sentiment that lead to Trumps win. Americans are completely ignorant to the reality of the situation; liberals included.

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                He might have said that line due to his mental decay, but it’s still troubling. I wouldn’t be surprized if he either used his new found powers to make himself the king of the US, or just discontinued the elections due to some sham “emergency measures”. If any of these comes true, the worlds only hope is that allegedly the US military is more left-leaning, at least compared to the US police that is packed full of ex-KKK members and ex-skinheads.

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                  17 days ago

                  The main reason not to worry too much about Trump staying in office after this term is that his health makes it very unlikely that he will survive significantly longer than this term based on age alone. Or in other words even as a dictator for life he wouldn’t last much longer than roughly one term. The real question is what kind of damage he can do to the system within that time.

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                    17 days ago

                    The issue is, who comes after him, and in what way. Will it be an election, will it be one of his deadbeat sons, or JD Vance?

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          17 days ago

          For over 20 years everytime a republican became president I’ve been told we’ll never have another election.

          I’d love see a credible source for that, because I don’t remember that at all.

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          17 days ago

          I’m from Hungary, and we were told Fidesz won’t subvert democracy, won’t have total media control, won’t have censorship of queer media, and won’t have a “foreign agents” law. Now they’re planning with Fidesz governance until 2050 (!) at least.

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      18 days ago

      So we either need to leave the party or replace leadership.

      I think at this point, leaving is the only way forward. The DNC/ the DCCC have shown that even given effectively infinite money, they don’t have the competence to win elections. They are always willing to rat-fuck popular candidates in favor of establishment candidates. There is no fixing this with Citizens United in place.

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      18 days ago

      people have been beating this drum for decades and i, for today only, am wondering if it’s having any impact despite it being completely true and easy to see.