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The election fraud lawsuits have started again.
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But Trump chose to stoke the flames Wednesday morning, posting on Truth Social that “Pennsylvania is cheating, and getting caught, at large scale levels rarely seen before.”
“Law enforcement must act, NOW!” he added.
Bucks County officials confirmed to NBC Philadelphia that they had been notified of the lawsuit, but did not provide further comment. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, meanwhile, shot back at the Republican presidential nominee, highlighting that Trump and his allies have spent the last four years actively corroding public trust in U.S. elections—and that they are currently warming up their second conspiracy to undermine the 2024 election results.
Quite a lot of the misinformation out of PA stems from a willful ignorance of how all this stuff works.
For example… the voter registration drives turning in invalid registrations:
“District attorneys and election officials in both Lancaster County and York County are looking into potential election-related fraud after authorities received large batches of voter registration materials from a “third-party organization.” Both York and Lancaster counties have more registered Republican voters than Democrats, according to state data, with York Republicans holding a 63% majority in the area and Lancaster Republicans at a 61% majority.”
When you do a voter registration drive, you are legally obligated to submit all registrations, valid or not. The only entity with the legal authority to reject registrations as valid is the State Secretary of State office.
This is because, back in the day, parties would do registration drives and just shit-can any registration for opposing parties.
Now, even if some dumbass fills out a registration for “Mickey Mouse” or “Superman”, it STILL has to be submitted to the Secretary of State for rejection.
That’s not “voter fraud”.
Look how much time and text it took to refute a few tiny bullshit utterances. Its impossible even if it was desireable, which its not. He needs to be in custody and in 24/7 solitary with zero internet access. He’s a goddamn terrorist
Yeah, they know that. That’s the fucking point.
Y’all need to unify your federal election into an actual federal election. Not 50 separate ones.
It would be a lot harder to pick and choose battleground states for lawsuits if you 1. Change the voting system yes, but also and importantly 2. Have consistent rules and voting infrastructure across the whole country.
Having to understand 50 separate election rules makes it way easier to sow doubt.
I am aware there are also some federal laws on voting, but still.
I tend to agree, at a minimum there should be federal regulations for federal elections, but the problem is that it’s impossible without a constitutional amendment making that definition. :(
The idea of ANY amendment even getting started with the 290 vote super majority in the House is just beyond us right now. :(
Election reform, supreme court reform, term limits, should all be top of mind.
Yeah :( Big sad, both for you as a citizen of the US (I presume), and for me, as someone under the thumb of the US’s sphere of influence.
Stay safe out there next week. I’m presume it’s gonna get wild.
I’m in Portland so we’re getting ready.
If Trump wins, it will be antifa/anarchist rioting.
If Harris wins, it will be free Gaza/anarchist rioting.
Basically, there will be rioting. Fortunately far enough away from where I live…
He’s riling up his base. People are going to die for this skidmark
You ain’t fucking kidding. Cities are about to get raided by hillbillies & rednecks with guns on trucks. I wish I was exaggerating.
No. Remember after Jan 6 when the badass freedom-fighters promised ominous “actions” in state capitals on Biden’s inauguration day? That day came and went, and at the few “actions” that did happen attendance was in the dozens. When those chickenshit couch farts saw their revolutionary heroes getting methodically tracked down and arrested by the FBI, they stayed home and shook their tiny fists at their TVs. That pathetic bunch of cowards love to talk badass, but when faced with actual personal risk they couldn’t civil war their way out of a Walmart.
I’d caution this sentiment. I don’t expect highly organized violence and I don’t think anyone else here should either. What you’re going to get is basically random acts of domestic terrorism. We’ve already see several ballot boxes set on fire and that’s the kind of thing this crowd will perform.
Well that and I really do think that polling places are in danger and so do a lot of cities. Again I doubt they’ll face organized attacks but look at the election in 2020. Several polling places were attacked and formed large crowds demanding the voting be stopped. It’s not unreasonable to think those crowds get violent this time around and maybe even attack lines of voters.
But the ultimate thing is that people should expect the absolute worst. The people in 2020 did not feel like an election had been stolen. Their extremist groups had no time to organize. Now they have that time. And now their beliefs are stronger than ever. Do not underestimate how awful the US will be from now till January.
You don’t even know how many inner city black folks love Trump, huh?
Ain’t just white trash that’s gonna try putting him in power
Uhh…yeah, it is.
I was just listening to some interview talking about how, while it was Dems’ efforts that pushed the pandemic stimulus checks through Congress, it was Trump’s signature on the check, and that was believed to have had a big impression on demographics no one would ever expect to go with the party of billionaires.
Edit: I should add that I only expect the votes coming from more diverse sources than what might be intuitive, not that all of those voters would be persuaded to go all-out “proud boys”.
Cities are about to get raided by hillbillies & rednecks
I’ve got some terrible news for you, about the political contingent common to plenty of big cities. It won’t be hillbillies and rednecks tearing shit up. It’ll be city cops, state troopers, and the deranged failsons of used car dealers.
Together. Obviously.
Well, you do have a right to bear arms… protect yourselves 😥
From The Guardian:
The queues for late mail ballots were a result of Pennsylvania not having an early on-site voting system at designated spots, as is the case in some other states. Instead, voters can apply for ballots on demand at election offices before filling them out and submitting them on the spot, a procedure that takes about 10 minutes.
The flood of late applicants overwhelmed electoral workers in Bucks county’s administration building in Doylestown, leading to a long queue, which was cut off at about 2.45pm on Tuesday
I went to drop off my ballot on Saturday and when I got there, not to the main office in Doylestown, but one of the smaller remote offices, and there was a huge line all the way across the front of the building and I was wondering what the heck was going on.
As I was getting to the end of the line, a person came over and asked if I already had my ballot, and when they saw it, they said I could go right in and drop it off. There was only one couple ahead of me there.
I had been wondering what the line was for, and now that makes sense. The Republicans had made the mail in ballot more complicated than necessary during COVID, so now they seem to feel it biting them as their potential supporters have been screwed by it.
“Democrat election officials are seeing our numbers. They’re seeing our turnout. They are seeing us breaking early vote records across Pennsylvania,” he said. “They are terrified. And they want to stop our momentum. We are not going to let them suppress our votes.”
Pennsylvania does not start counting votes before election day. Nobody has any clue as to who is voting for whom.
They’ve broken the system and want to say “look at this broken system, we can’t trust it!” To me that just shows we can’t trust you!
I really hope Pennsylvanians do the right thing. These people need to be stopped.
Nice of him to get all the denial stuff started early so both sides have a nice heads start.
/s
On a serious note though, dems can weapons this
“Trump is a sore loser even before people vote”
But they won’t.
dems can weapons this
The thing about wrestling in the mud with a pig is that the pig likes it.
If the democrats hadn’t been pussies for two decades before Trump and effectively welded power, we wouldn’t have had Trump.
I dunno, when she said at the debate that people were getting bored and leaving his rallys early, that was straight out of the trump playbook, and he did not seem to like it at all
High road allll the way to losing. Yeeehaw!
Just learned to fucking wrangle a pig in the mud. It’s been done.
Chlling? More like pathetic.
if the courts werent so loaded in his favor those suits could be more easily dismissed.
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Bonespurs knows this bogus litigation won’t even cost him anything, his flock will pay for it.
I would actually call it a ho-hum sign. It’s just his fingernails scraping the floor as he gets dragged out of the spotlight to spend the rest of his sad-ass life in court.
If he loses PA, he’s done.
Kamala is in a similar situation, if she loses PA she will have to win multiple swing states.
It kind of sucks that out of 50 states only a few “matter”. It also seems to be that every election year now there is at least one state that doesn’t have their shit together and we have to wait a week for results.
“Doesn’t have their shit together”?
Those states voting systems are broken by design, by republicans who broke them, who then turn and immediately complain they are “broken”.
Are you really that uninformed?
Here’s a conveniently illustrative example of the whole concept, acted out in a small contained incident, including the traitorous idiot clumsily tripping over his own bullshit as he gets caught. https://lawandcrime.com/crime/theyre-coming-after-us-patriots-former-maga-candidate-for-congress-caught-stealing-election-ballots-charged-with-felony-police-say/?origin=serp_auto
One state just “Doesn’t have their shit together” huh? Fucking joke.
Holy shit! I just realized you’re stalking my posts. Lmao. Get a life.
You’re that one poster who just doesn’t have their shit together…
but county officials had observed that there were complaints on social media (shared by the Trump campaign) about long lines to obtain mail-in ballots on Tuesday, the last day of their availability
This is all about allowing people to vote by mail in ballot??? What the fuck was his 2020 complaints all about???
“Law enforcement must act, NOW!” he added.
Welp, he’s right about that part! Just not the way he thinks.
His lawyers deserve what they’ll get from doing this – being unpaid.
They don’t need to be paid now. They can get fast-tracked onto the federal courts later.
He wants SCOTUS to give him a gift in a state that matters. Virginia was nice but not necessary for Democrats.
Did his file it himself? Because Im amazed that any lawyer will help him without cash up front.
In some states they’ll give anyone a license to practice law.