Gizmodo filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FTC to get complaints sent to the federal agency about crypto scams that pretend to be affiliated with Musk. We obtained 247 complaints, all filed between Feb. and Oct. of this year, and they’re filled with stories of people who believed they were watching ads for authentic crypto investments sanctioned by Musk on social media.
The ads sometimes featured the names of Musk’s various companies, like SpaceX, Tesla, and X, while other times they utilized Musk’s association with neo-fascist presidential candidate Donald Trump.
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Some people in the complaints believed they were talking directly with Musk, a sadly common story that has popped up in news reports before. But they weren’t talking with Musk, of course. They were communicating with scammers engaging in what’s called pig butchering—the name for a type of fraud popularized in the mid-2010s where scammers extract as much money as possible through flattery and promises of tremendous profits if the victim just “invests” where they’re told.
I want a water bear as a pet so bad but the fact that they’re microscopic might be an issue
There’s a simple explanation for this. Elon Musk fans are fucking idiots.
They might also just be the target demographic for pig butchering.
- Middle Class
- Over 40
- Conservative Male (lonely)
- Greedy / Self-serving
But yeah there is definitely correlation with low cognitive ability.
Like their master
while other times they utilized Musk’s association with neo-fascist presidential candidate Donald Trump.
I love that they called him what he is. I wish more in media would.
Tech bros are tech broing?!
I mean it makes sense to target these people. If you’re stupid enough to believe the shit Musk or Trump spout, you’re also stupid enough to not see these very obvious scams.
there was a story here recently about a lot of scamming happening on truth social. so yeah.
If only they had a safe place to put their money that was protected by law and insured against losses.
Protected‽ Then their exes can get it for child support!
This is pretty sad.
I have a number of elderly relatives. The one thing I keep telling them is if they ever get approached, to contact their kids, or check with another family member before responding. So far, there haven’t been any problems.
But I heard an in-law’s parents in a different state lost a big chunk of money to one of these scams and may now lose their home.
My elderly dad called me a few years ago to let me know that we’d have to change up all the security stuff for our family phone plan because he gotten scammed. He said he got a call from someone claiming to be a representative of the phone company who said they’d like to lower our monthly bill. I stopped him and said “well, that should have been your first clue… when in the last decade of us using them has that ever happened? When was the last time our bill went down instead of up?”
I saw one of these and it took me a second to realize it was a scam. I’m a spaceflight geek and as much as a tool as Musk is, there’s heavy overlap in spaceflight and SpaceX.
On Youtube there was a purported “live launch update” livestream. I was confused because I knew there were no launches scheduled that day of any kind much less SpaceX. What I saw was Musk on a stage outdoors apparently talking about a new SpaceX crypto product and the voice, which sounded exactly like Musk’s talked about giving away free crypto the only thing you had to do was buy it, then share you wallet info and Musk would double it.
Besides this smelling very suspect, I realized that there were never close shots when musk was talking, so you couldn’t see the lips match the words being said audibly and I knew it was a scam.
I can absolutely see how the greedy would get scammed by this.
I saw one of these too on YouTube – it easily popped up early on my home page.
I’d consider myself a tech savvy person and even then, this took a minute to spot the scam. I can totally see someone falling for it.
Maybe a hot take, but those currently into crypto and Musk aren’t that bright.
That is the coldest take I’ve ever heard.
Yep - It was found in the frozen food section
Speak for yourself. Personally I turned $12K into $36K when the US government allowed bitcoin to be traded on the stock market as an ETF. Yet everyone here keeps trying to tell me that it’s a scam. Which is weird, because I bought a car, an OLED TV, and built a $4000 gaming machine with my “fake internet money”, as everyone here likes to call it.
All this stuff I bought with my earnings seems real to me. But hey, keep downvoting and calling me an idiot, like you always do, when I bring up the point that not everyone is stupid enough to lose money with crypto.
Okay, hypothetically let’s imagine someone who is a Bitcoin trading god. Every peak he’s there unloading his bags, every dip and he’s buying hundreds of Bitcoins. This guy turns thousands into millions and millions into billions. Huge success story right?
But here’s the rub, where is all this money coming from? The money isn’t coming out of thin air, it’s not coming from the crypto exchanges, otherwise they’d go bankrupt, it’s not coming from the value of any goods or services produced. The answer is that all that money is coming from other people. Someone has to be buying at the peak thinking it’ll go “To the moon” and getting burned, or maybe the need to pay off some hackers cryptolocker. The same for the dip maybe someone needs real money right now and must sell despite the loss, or maybe someone is panic selling thinking the price will go lower. Our hypothetical trading god hasn’t really created any money or anything of value at all, they’ve just moved money from the losers in the Bitcoin to his own wallet.
This makes you the equivalent to one of the spokespeople from near the top of a pyramid scheme taking about how this is one of the legit pyramid schemes, because you’ve earned so much money! Ignoring of course that all of their money means that someone somewhere needed to lose that money first.
However, I suppose at the end of the day, you did take twenty four thousand dollars from crypto morons, so I suppose that’s kinda noble in a way.
I feel like they don’t even need to be crypto schemes affiliated with Musk for that Venn diagram to work
Sure, the scams like pig butchering look dumb from the outside, but never think shit like this can’t happen to you. There’s TONs of ways scammers can trick you, but usually they’ll seek out vulnerable people. Sure the gullible are vulnerable, but just because you’re not vulnerable right now, doesn’t mean you won’t be at some point in the future. Desperation can make scholars into fools.
Can agree. I used to think I was savvy enough to avoid getting scammed, until I followed a link that a person who was pretending to be a mechanic gave me to purchase parts for my car. I ended up spending $1300 on parts that didn’t exist.
Long story short, I eventually got my money back after arguing with my bank’s fraud department for several months. I wish I could afford a lawyer so I could sue this guy for pain and suffering + the thousands I spent in Uber/Lyft/Waymo getting to work while I didn’t have a car.
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Idiots who fall for Elon Musks genius persona and think they are smart also fall for crypto scams? Shocking I tell you, shocking
I’m so glad they’re losing it to these scams instead of to leon.
Some people in the complaints believed they were talking directly with Musk, a sadly common story that has popped up in news reports before.
I remember when I thought I was talking directly to a celebrity online… when I was 13. It didn’t take long to realize how stupid that idea was. To be a grown adult and still think there’s a chance a celebrity is sending messages to random people is mind-boggling.
I cringe at the memories now, but at least I can take comfort in having learned about catfishing long before I had money to lose from it.
