Rational people understand it’s an emergency, and we need to have the biggest tent with the most people in it.
Who is the Dick Cheney/Liz Cheney constituency though? Whose opinion will be swayed by the former VP of a deeply unpopular administration at its end? Or by a former Congresswoman with a infamous last name?
This is a nice-to-have for Democrats, but is it actually moving the needle with voters? Is it actually changing minds or increasing turnout? Harris and her advisors certainly think so, she’s out there campaigning with Cheney actively, but where is the movement in the numbers, cause I’m not seeing it.
Just not big enough for the left, naturally.
The “center” has run to and supported her so they’re getting what they want. If the left wants anything you have to get in the tent first. There’s a reason Bernie ran in the Democratic primary. Keep our democracy and work on shifting left via primaries and ballot measures. Otherwise we’ve got an R dictatorship and I’m not rich enough or white enough to deal with that.
We’re already in the tent. In the back. In the “I assume they will vote D” seats.
And we will this time. (At least, I will.) While D cheerfully becomes the new conservative party and R becomes/remains the batshit crazy party.
Somehow the Republicans inviting Trump and the racists to take over had the net effect of pulling D to the right.
“They don’t have a home anymore,” said Walz.
The people who no longer have a home are progressives. R made their own fucking bed, but the Democrat leadership kept the light on for them, so they will be OK.
Most of .ml and hexbear and other “tankies” are vocally saying they’re going to vote someone else like de la cruz or west (or not at all). All of those same people can’t respond to the fact that if they want third party viability then need to 1)make sure voting remains a thing (aka vote harris this election)and 2) work to get something other than ftfp voting and work hard to get progressives in the primary3) don’t expect quick change because the system is set up to maintain a status quo which means a lot of willpower is needed for changes.
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is obvious I think. Palestinian genocide should not be supported by our country but Harris has at least talked willingness to pull netanyahu back somewhat. Rs want to let netanyahu be further unhinged in his genocide, let putin commit a Ukrainian genocide, then start a new one at home starting with the Trans and quickly spreading to other lgbtq, Latinos and whatever the outgroup of the hour is.
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basically the main driver behind this two party divide. RCV is why Alaska, home of Sarah Palin has a democratic house representative. I know people talk about other systems too, what I know is just about anything is better than the FTFP we currently have.
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Before '08 politicians hadn’t seriously considered M4A. Now what we got, the ACA/Obamacare hasn’t been good but is a hell of a lot better than what we had before.
Better than what we had is basically the aim. Rs and billionaires have been playing that game for themselves since before Reagan and are why we’re in a sea of shit. We’re not going to magically fly out of the shit into a socialist utopia, it is a long slog back to a shore of reason then trekking to somewhere better. All I’m saying is voting can’t be the lone basis of fixing our system but is a bare minimum to keep a system in place. A revolution is only nice on paper and it’s just as likely the “bad guys” win.
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In other words: Yes, Stalin is a murderous dickbag who won’t let us use his territory to bomb Japan and steals every piece of technology we send him but we need him to beat Hitler.
forging that relationship at the time was helpful and a clear benefit and, unlike then, the poll numbers are making it clear that campaigning with support from war criminals is not helpful.
we need to have the biggest tent with the most people in it.
Which is why we’re gonna completely ignore the sizeable uncommitted movement and probably the entire state of Michigan.
Architect of the greatest war crime in the 21st century but hey, welcome to the resistance!
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. For now.
It’s like an alien invasion happening. Except a complete fascist takeover. And not even the Cheney’s are willing to go that far.
Once this is over, if the good guys win, we can all go back to hating each other.
Oh he’s willing to go with that far there’s just not enough in it for him.
They’re all my enemies though
With you. But we’ve got to prioritize one enemy at a time so we’re not waging war on multiple fronts.
Let’s take down orange Mussolini together first, then we can take down the republicans that allowed this to happen, and the ones that committed war crimes.
We’ll never get to where you think this will get you. I won’t make common cause with genocidaires.
Rare to see someone on an ML domain speak out against Stalin and more modern genociders like Xi. I’m with ya, but you should know, your instances admins like to ban for such things. Be careful.
So clever!
What, not being a hypocrite? If you criticize one. You should criticize the other. I agree the US and Harris shouldn’t support and enable genocide. Neither should ML. Nothing about it is really clever. But if you think it is I think that says more about you than anyone else.
I would say he’s a solid #2 in that regard behind Kissinger
21st century?
lol oops, reading is hard.
It’s been an all-hands-on-deck moment since 2016, and this is the culmination. Anybody willing to help is on the team. Anybody refusing help for the team is not on the team.
So not only is Dick Cheney on the team (at least right now), he’s more on the team than some progressives.
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