• Lightor@lemmy.world
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          No, they are showing how Trump, a person who never should be president, became the president. It shows that 3rd party voters can impact the outcome but choose not to. It doesn’t have to be that way, you can make an impact.

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            They are not arguing in good faith

            However, calling a person a (person who has an agenda) from (country that they are from) is against the rules

            So just block them

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      Voting third party in a first past the post voting system ensures you get the candidate you want the least.

      Third party is not a solution to a two party system but it does disproportionately affect democratic votes who want change and don’t blindly vote. That’s why it’s often with Republican interests that these 3rd parties are funded in the first place.

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        Understandable. I’m not arguing about the technicalities of third parties in the first past voting system. You are 100% correct.

        I just don’t like the entitlement. I also don’t like the green party cause I only hear about and of them once every 4 years for the elections. I’m simply stating how annoying and frustrating it is to see Democrats court more centrists and trad republicans than to their core base who they take for granted in a “who else you gonna vote for removed” kinda attitude.

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          The opposite is true. It’s not republicans splitting off to vote green lol When Trump won and when bush won, third parties took away significant votes (1-3%) away from democratic candidates.

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            In 2016:

            In Michigan Gary Johnson got 172,136 votes, in Pennsylvania he got 146,715, and in Wisconsin he got 106,674. If all Greens voted Clinton and all Libertarians voted Trump then New Mexico would’ve only been won by Clinton with around 1,000 votes, Colorado would’ve also been nearly Trump. Nevada, New Hampshire, and Minnesota would’ve been won by Trump. Maine might’ve gone majority Trump.

            In 2020 if Libertarians went Republican and Greens went Democrat, Trump would’ve won Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and nearly Pennsylvania.

            That would’ve tied the election, leading to a Trump presidency.

            You’re right about 2000 though.

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                What are you basing that on? Again, Libertarians lean Republican, just as Greens lean Democrats, Libertarians cost Trump 2020…