• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    In the classic trolley problem, if you do nothing then the murderer is the person who tied the people to the tracks. You are not using that analogy correctly.

    Even if they did hit a switch, they bear no responsibility for who is murdered. Again thats to the person who created the situation.

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      1 month ago

      I have never heard that interpretation. Everyone I’ve ever seen talking about it agrees that if you flip the switch, you are complicit. Why else would there even be a discussion of if you should or not?

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        1 month ago

        Except if you flip the switch while the trolley is halfway (front wheels have passed, rear one haven’t). Then you derail the trolley and nobody dies.

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        You can have that discussion but neither makes a person a murderer, thats the point. Much like a person who refuses to vote for a democrat or republican is not genocidal.

        Besides all that, there is no consensus that the democrat track is less genocidal than the republican track. Try the trolley problem again but with equal life on each side.

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          1 month ago

          If voting for Harris makes you complicit, not voting does as well. Neither option is “murderer” or “genocidal”. But you contribute your small part to the outcome just by virtue of having some modicum of influence.

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            1 month ago

            Okay and what benefit is there to influencing the decision if it won’t change the outcome either way?

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              1 month ago

              Are you saying your vote doesn’t change who’s president or that Harris and Trump are the same?

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                In regards to participating in genocide they are the same. Democrats currently give Israel anything it asks for. Trump will surely also do this. Not much difference.

                If its most important that the president I vote for not kill my family members in other countries, then why should I vote for either of them?