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      What kills me about this is if the neolib dems had taken just a moment at the primary to cast their vote for undecided to show the Dem leadership that genocide was a non negotiable issue they should do the right thing on, it might have worked.
      It would have cost absolutely nothing, and we might be coasting to an easy victory right now. Instead we’re here.

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        100%

        But look around this place. Its still the same Blue MAGA here trying to bash peoples head in (now for Harris, then for Biden) as before.

        The same people that would demand we drive off a cliff with Biden at the wheel are the ones insisting that we need to support Harris in-spite of her genocide policy, instead of trying to move her on the issue. Like we literally need her to fix her policy or she literally can’t get elected. And its self-evident in the data we have. She’s now losing, not even accounting for the structural biases we should very much expect from RW fuckery and the EC.

        Like just come out against genocide. Its fucking easy. It can be a fucking lie. Just fucking lie to us so we can convince enough people to get you elected Harris.

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          Man. I wonder if we are going to lose. Its definitely possible at this point, but hard to imagine. How awful are our dem candidates to lose to an insane peice of human trash like Trump

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    “Once noble party” - ffs.

    Jill Stein is a bad actor in this election, she understands how the electoral college works and she understands she’s weakening the democratic party position. But let’s not blame shift - the Democrats could be much better on climate change then they are today and if they were better Stein’s BS wouldn’t have such an easy time attracting voters. I dislike the title posing it as “Stein may hand Trump the whitehouse again.”

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      Even if the argument about getting X% of votes was true, the states to campaign heavy in would be the deep blue/red states. Especially since they tend to get ignored by candidates.

      Instead she sticks to the states where <30k votes could decide the election and the market is saturated with the most expensive ad costs

      It’s blantantly obvious what’s she’s doing.

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        The only person who would represent me is myself, and I wouldn’t vote for myself because I don’t want that shitty job

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    It was nice to see the World News community finally realize that the DNC has been doing nothing but shooting themselves in the foot for a year.

    Maybe this community will finally catch on and connect the dots between a random ass 3rd party getting blamed for stealing votes away from the Democrats, and Democrats not actually meeting the core demands of their constituency.

    Or maybe not…

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    I’m not sure who she’s gonna actually end up hurting this time. I gotta imagine anyone who falls for the Jill Stein shtick is likely to fall for Trump’s too.

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    Kamala Harris can win over all of those Jill Stein voters with a single sentence.

    Stupid Jill Stein’s entire campaign is based on the premise that Democrats would keep a genocide going for an entire year into election season.

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      Yeah remember when they were all clamoring for Biden to drop out? And he did? They just fucking moved the goalposts.

      They do not give a fuck about Gaza. It’s just a tool to hurt Democrats.

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    Its the genocide thats the problem-- Steins numbres are small… And Jill Stein owes the dems nothing, she can run if she wants. Thats what democracy is about. So the new republic can suck it.

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        Thats fine. Theres only 2% of the electorate who are jewish, and a good portion of that 2% also dont support the zionist faction. We give some of them and the youth voters a voice to fight on our behalf. We need to keep the youth vote on side or the party is long term doomed anyway. Any leader who says they are swayed by the voice of youth has a long career ahead of them.

        We also say that, “we arent steering the US away from support of Israel, we’re steering it away from the far right government sponsored violence of Netenyahu.” And we claim we’re happy to be friends again when moderates or lefties are in charge in Israel. The zionists cant pretend to have clean hands, and Netenyahu needs to go.

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          Media coverage can make or break a campaign. They absolutely destroyed Jeremy Corbyn for being pro-Palestine.

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            We could declare we’re now neutral because we have to follow the Leahy laws. Pull our military back, no more UN coverage, no more weapons. The “war” will calm down real quick.

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    I’m sorry but, Is that weird neck thing shes wearing…chain link fence patterned

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      It is a fishnet pattern keffiyeh (Palestinian headdress), as she seems to be wearing it around a lot to appear as the most pro-Palestinian candidate.

      From NPR

      Some say patterns on the keffiyeh symbolize different aspects of Palestinian life: the bold black stripes on the edges symbolize the historical trade routes that used to go through Palestine; the fishnet-like design represents the Palestinians’ ties to the Mediterranean Sea; and the curvy lines resemble olive trees, a major point of pride for Palestinians.

      Though none of these claims can be backed up by historical evidence, over the past 10 years they’ve become embraced by Palestinians in the diaspora to be the meaning behind their keffiyeh’s patterns.

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        keffiyeh

        just googled around a little and im not the only one that sees a chainlink fence…I suppose it fits the current state of gaza too.

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    If you want to vote third party but don’t like the greens, the party for socialism and liberation is running de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood!

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    hate to “BURST” your bubble, but Trump is destroying america and destroying the Republican do nothing party! and Democrats are winning hands down!

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    Democracy, where you have freedom of speech except if you speak about Israel, or your own country war crimes, or your own country foreign policy, or trying to run for office if you are not Democrat or Republicans.