“Fidelity is currently valuing X at about $9.4 billion”

I found this funny.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if part of this remaining value is because the Japanese internet still heavily relies on it as a platform, even if the west has begun moving elsewhere.

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    And yet, he’s still one of the what, 5 richest people on the planet?

    He doesn’t give a shit, and neither should you (as nice as the schadenfreude might feel). He got something worth more to him than plain old money - an established propaganda platform, which he is using as he intended - to war monger and otherwise interfere in politics to ensure fascism progresses as fast as he can help it. The “dent” (more like a surface scratch) it put in his finances is completely invisible and irrelevant to him.

    And it should be to you, too.

    He is NEVER going to end up without means or power, not even fucking close, unless we take them from him, and abolish the system that encouraged and enabled him to amass them in the first place.

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      What is completely wild to me is that there are only 4 main apps: Reddit, twitter, instagram, and Facebook. Almost every public conversation happens on one of those platforms. And of those four platforms, one of them was bought by one singular person. Some people just don’t get the absolute scale of how much one person can just buy of our communities.

      Like it or not, there are businesses on Twitter. Celebrities are easy to reach and talk to. Even companies use Twitter for support. News outlets post there. It’s a whole community. Was it a bit toxic? Yeah. But it wouldn’t have mattered. One guy bought it.

      Similar to what you said, if you were to run the numbers on this I’m pretty sure owning twitter to Elon is not much different than owning a cable subscription to your average family. A whole community of tens of millions of people bought by one person and its success doesn’t matter. Capitalism is broken. And if you think that’s bad, imagine how he can affect your government when a Supreme Court justice goes for a small small fraction of the price…

      Edit: I did the math and it turns out that twitter has lost so much money that this is no longer a cable subscription. It’s about a 6% yearly loss to Elons net worth, dependent on his current stock values. Which means it’s not cable, but about the cost the average person spends on food in a year ($10,000 yearly cost to a 200k net worth). Still insane.

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          To clarify, I was thinking of the depreciating asset part as a loss of value the same way that a subscription is.

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        Well said, after losing access to twitter it’s really hard to get information on game companies for example, since they don’t have their own blog for you to RSS and get information about the newest game updates and what not, and they only post on youtube if they have a new trailer.

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          I suppose it’s too much to hope for, for RSS feeds to make a comeback. Or JSON feeds being more prevalent. I’m totally serious, I miss being able to just check the headlines without going through a bunch of bullshit.

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      Not only that, but the folks who helped bankroll him saw what social media could do to organize protests and evade censorship and wanted to reduce its power. The Saudis saw the Arab Spring and shit their collective thobe.

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      PayPal and Tesla and SpaceX been pretty big successes. But Twitter is a real fuckup for him. It shows that his judgment and temperament and perfect boy genius mystique have all jumped the shark in a big way.

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        But Twitter is a real fuckup for him

        Except it clearly fucking isn’t, it’s doing exactly what he bought it for, including convincing people like you to feel sympathy for him and his “loss”, which is equal parts hilarious and really fucking sad. You’re looking at his life from the point of view of a poor person, something he never was and never will be, yet he’s still so easily manipulated you in to feeling bad for him (and the billions he’s lost, leaving him… still the motherfucking richest person on the planet), and even fucking (think you) relate to him and the idea that he can “fail” just like you can, using you as a living breathing mouthpiece to make his life easier. Not yours.

        perfect boy genius mystique

        I just threw up a little in my mouth, thanks.

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          I don’t know who you’re talking to. I have no pity for the man and don’t relate to him. I don’t have to argue with you over whether Tesla and SpaceX have been successful businesses because those are objective facts. It’s also pretty idiotic to deny that years ago, he had a boy genius aura about him - investors still throw billions at that image. Sorry it makes you throw up, especially because you already appear to be absolutely choking on Elon hate. I despise the man but I’m not slobbering all over myself with jealous disdain as you sound to be.

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    Musk did not buy this as an investment. He bought it to flip elections and manipulate public opinion.

    Tesla is writing him a check that will cover the entire purchase price, and Saudi Arabia and Russia will pay the operating costs.

    Active users are what matters; if they lost 75% of their users then I’m paying attention.

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      I think it’s even pettier than that. He’s the loud guy on the forum who literally bought the site so he could be admin.

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        Honestly, everyone needs to listen to the episode of Search Engine about Elon. It’s such a clear narrative of what happened between the Iron Man cameo and now. It’s pure hubris - someone who is very unlikable desperately hungry for love to the point where his brain bust a fuse.

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      We’ll never know since Musk is nurturing a state-funded “user”-base that will always keep their numbers inflated

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    Elon Musk’s greatest personal achievement has been his tireless work and incredible effort toward disproving the myth of Billionaire Exceptionalism.

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        “Y’all my current portfolio is worth 9 BILLION dollars!” “Ah sick, seems to be going pretty well for you.” “Yeah, I’m down 75%”

        “Still worth billions tho” is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard on this platform and that’s saying a lot.

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          I’d cheer on if Elon Musk becomes a pauper. $9 billion is still worth a lot. It’s still, as the article says, billions.

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          look even 1 billion is more than enough to live on for a lifetime and then quite a bit left over, so that is not really that dumb

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            While you are correct, that’s not the point of this article. It’s about how X lost value. Elon isn’t homeless, so yeah it’s still worth a lot of money.

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    If they influence the election to their desired outcome, then the value won’t matter. The damage will have been done.

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        Yes, he gets a raging fascist boner every time someone fails to assassinate Trump because he thinks it’s the cue to go full Nazi but really he just keeps jumping the gun and making it far too obvious deeply part of Trump’s ongoing fascist takeover schemes and really not the guy we should have any significant government contracts with

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          I see, thanks for the insight. I don’t have Twitter so I didn’t really know about this stuff 😂

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    Let’s everyone point and laugh. It humbles people like him, right?

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        Appreciated. Yeah. That douche is the absolute worst, but everyone climbing over one another to call him out is just making him more and more relevant.

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          I tend to ignore posts about him. I wouldn’t even be commenting here if I weren’t just trying to see if I’m banned from this instance, or just political memes.

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      I’m confident you could unload the property for $4B easily enough. That’s somewhere in the neighborhood of $10-100/unique user amortized out over the life of the loan, which would be a steal via any other advertising medium.

      Twitter still has real value. Hundreds of millions of people still use it, even in its deplorable state. And under new management, I’m confident people would flood back in.

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    If he succeeds in using it as a propaganda platform to force the US into a fascist dictatorship, he will have gotten his money’s worth.