After being incredibly disappointed by the release of Sims 4, I was someone holding out hope for Sims 5 that they would have realized, “Hey, people really didn’t want us to do anything multiplayer in Sims 4. Maybe that means we should go back and make an actual good Sims game?” But instead, we get this awful news that Sims will be just like Fortnite, heavily monetized with its own store, basically following the model of Fallout games with creation club, in a sense. Completely the opposite of what players asked for, and crushing all of our hopes and dreams of playing a new Sims game that’s just like Sims 3…

To me, this really kills the entire franchise for me. I don’t think there’s any hope for it, I think this is a death blow, basically an execution of the franchise and turning it into the most low value (to the consumer, mind you) dribble that they could have possibly came up with. There is nothing they could have announced that is worse than a multiplayer version of Sims with microtransactions, that’s basically just Sims mobile that you can play on your PC! Sims 4 is already completely unplayable for me, because there’s no content, it’s just stupid packs and kids and stuff and little micro bundles. There’s nothing fun about the game, and you see people streaming it, it’s just building. That’s all they are ever doing. Just building crap.

It’s even worse that there’s no competitor because it’s so incredibly challenging to make a game like The Sims. Horrifically challenging, life by me was completely gutted and canceled, and that was one of the major games that people were looking forward to. There is still paralives, But they are so early access and have no release date at all. It could be 10 years from now that they finish their game or longer.

TL;DR: Sims 4 ruined by surprise multiplayer mechanics that were removed. Sims 5 canceled in place of multiplayer with microtransaction store like Fallout creation club. Barely any competitors, life by me canceled. Franchise is dead in the water

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    There’s nothing fun about the game, and you see people streaming it, it’s just building. That’s all they are ever doing. Just building crap.

    To be fair, that’s always been a reasonable description of games like Sims, Minecraft, and most other simulation style games, depending on personal preference. Maybe the fact that you’re choosing to use it now means you aren’t as interested in that style of game, or even video games in general, as you used to be. Maybe not, but I think it’s worth considering at least.

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      To be fair, that’s always been a reasonable description of games like Sims

      I disagree with you here. You’re making it out to be that this is the extent of it, and that’s not true. Sims 3 had a HUGE amount of content aside from Building. There were quests/tasks, lineages for families, hidden objectives, you could wander around your entire city/neighborhood. None of these are possible in Sims 4. Every “neighborhood” has like 5 housing plots. Some have more than that, one of the Vampire ones has literally 4 homes, you can’t scroll over or have your sim walk next door and make a new friend nope. If you/others haven’t played Sims 3, seriously… Go try it, try to 100% it by experiencing all it offers, especially the Future DLC. It’s insane, really. Every S4 DLC by comparison is hollowed out and has like 5 things to do total. Most of the traveling ones, the university ones. They slashed the content in Sims 4 by 75% and kept the price for the DLC the EXACT same. It’s criminal.

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        I’m not saying it’s not possible that the Sims franchise has gotten worse. I’m just saying that lots of people would have described every Sims game in the same terms OP did. I’m also saying that your tastes and preferences can change over time. It’s possible, but certainly not the only option, that these two things are more true than it is that Sims is getting worse.

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    It’s time for a new Sims. The way Cities Skylines replaced Simcity and Planet Coaster replaced Rollercoaster Tycoon. Fuck EA

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      Now would be a great time to make a new simcity since city skylines 2 got greedy and bombed

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    New sims game? This is the first I’m hearing of it. A complaint thread on Lemmy. Game’s DOA

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      I think 3 was, I guess it’s subjective though.

      Maybe the base game of 2 had more features or something, and with 3 you needed add-ons

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    Do people still play The Sims 4? I bought it like 7 years ago, played it once, got bored, and never picked it up again. I saw gameplay once of the Sims 3 and was genuinely surprised by how many more features it had.

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      Do people still play The Sims 4?

      Yes, it’s widely streamed on Twitch, most of them are just chicks doing house builds. It’s pretty much a PC game version of HGTV to build homes with absurd amounts of customization. Most of them don’t even play the game, they just give themselves tons of money and build a “dream home” like some Ikea home builder simulator. Which is fair, btw, I just want to say that… Completely ok if they like that, not to bash them. But it’s not really playing the full extent of the game, building a family and a career and life simulating.

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        When I did play I would build relationships with people before locking them in my house until they died and then steal all their assets

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    Look forward to Inzoi, I think it launches next year, they released the character creator to try it.

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    Do people really feel this strongly about the Sims? I thought it’s been irrelevant for like a decade

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    Why is nobody competing with them? It doesn’t seem like a hard type of game to make, and they’re doing such a terrible job that it should be easy to compete with them.

    Who’s got a Sims alternative?

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      The fact that there aren’t many alternatives likely means that making a Sims-like game isn’t as simple as it looks. That being said, there are a bunch of life sims under developement right now (probably because EA is doing a terrible job) such as Paralives, Inzoi and Alterlife.

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        Just a heads up, Alterlife likely never got off the ground. They mocked up a demo video with store assets 3 years ago, but were never heard from again. I still have it on my wishlist, but my hopes are not up, lol.

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    It makes money so it’s not dead. People using it and playing it are the reason. It would only flop if people weren’t giving them tons of money. It’s the hard truth one’s got to acknowledge.