• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s stunning that each party managed to find a candidate that could lose against the other.

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      Its not that stunning. In fact, its more common than you’d guess.

      Only Ford could lose to Carter. Only Dukakis could lose to Bush. Only Hillary could lose to Trump. Hindsight 20/20. Foresight blind as a fucking bat.

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      If the election was today, Biden would lose. Imagine if Trump wasn’t the nominee for November, the GOP would win the presidency.

      Edit: it’s just reality according to the current polling.

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            There it is again.

            The disconnect that exists is that people don’t see the good things he does. You know, green energy, chips act, unions, drug price controls, student debt relief, telling them to look at marijuana rescheduling, infrastructure building. It just goes on and on. You’re doing mental gymnastics to say B-B-Biden bad! Ciao.

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                I would say that the bare minimum would actually include not actively supporting a genocide, but maybe I’m just out of touch.

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                Lol you all caps shouted “YES” agreeing to what I said and literally said “Biden is bad”.

                Bare minimum huh? Back to your mental gymnastics. Biden’s doing fucking great.

                You want more? He doesn’t even have control of the house of representatives. If you want more give him and Dems consistent and resounding victories.

                I think this is where I inform you that Dems have had control of all three (house, Senate, and presidency) for a whooping 4 years of the last 24 years. If you include Bill Clinton, then it’s 6 of the last 32 years. You want more progress? Give Dems consistent and resounding victories. Not a measly half term every second president.

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                  Lol you all caps shouted “YES” agreeing to what I said and literally said “Biden is bad”.

                  My apologies, I post anything critical of Biden and the centrist rage comes out of the woodwork to defend him. I got my comments mixed up.

                  What should Biden do differently to run away with the change of winning re-election?

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    Biden won 2020 in spite of being Joe Biden, it’s why it took almost 40 years for him to win his first presidential primary, people just don’t ot want him as president.

    Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected…

    I really don’t think he can pull out another razor thin win like in 2020.

    We’re risking trump so we can have a Dem president that’s more conservative than Dem voters want.

    There’s no logic behind it, except the donor class would rather have trump than a progressive. And just like AIPAC, they decided it’s easiest to just buy both parties in the primary.

    This is the third election and a row, it’s not going to be different in 2028. If voters only requirement is “blue” then nothing is stopping either party from getting more and more conservative every election

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      Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected…

      He far exceeded my expectations.

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          • Massive infrastructure bill
          • Student loan forgiveness
          • Marijuana rescheduling

          There’s plenty more, but my expectation was for him to not be Trump which he has thoroughly succeeded at. The rest is icing.

          The biggest things he’s disappointed on, Trump disappoints on too…:

          • Palestine
          • Being too fucking old

          …so it’s easy to see how that on balance he has exceeded expectations…

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              It’s silly to downvote you for wanting the leaders and representatives of a country and its people to be held to a certain standard.

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                I mean, politicians work for us. We’re their boss. They should be working their asses off for the people.

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                  Marijuana rescheduling, infrastructure spending, student loan forgiveness, clean drinking water, lowered costs of generic drugs, expanded Medicaid, increased domestic manufacturing, rejoining the Paris agreement, increased nationwide gas mileage requirements, and improved healthcare access for veterans not enough policies for you?

                  edit 3 hours later…

                  return2ozma: “There are policies we can champion that are more than ‘not Trump.’

  • venusaur@lemmy.world
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    Ranked Choice Voting! Find your local RCV group and find ways to help get RCV implemented in your city! It’s something that sees opposition from republicans and democrats so you know it’s good.

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      It would be nice if they did that for the Democratic primaries.

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    I think Trump retiring and the Republicans replacing him with a charismatic, young, intelligent christofascist would be devastating for the Democrats (and humanity) right now and I don’t know why they don’t do it.

    For that matter I don’t see why Democrats don’t replace Biden with a charismatic, young, intelligent social democrat which would be equally devastating for republicans. So who knows with these people.

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      Charismatic, intelligent people don’t need fascism nearly as much as dumbfucks do but even for the few who get sucked in anyway, there’s easier and more self-serving ways to express it than a grueling, always-on position in the Republican party.

      But ultimately the answer to both “why don’t they run someone actually good” questions is “because it would be a threat to neoliberals and their record profits”.

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        Neolibs can’t countenance that their darling politicians are actually right of Nixon, let alone admit it.

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    Man who closed the deal with 43k votes out of 5.7M across three pivotal states happy to report he has well over 80% of his original voter base behind him.

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    “The other guy is worse than me” is not such a winning strategy, but I guess it works for the #VoteBlueNoMatterGenocide crowd.

    We have to support the genocide OVER THERE so we don’t have genocide OVER HERE!