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    And half of voters are voting for it.

    I just listened to a “undecided voters deliberate” and I want to pull my fucking hair out.

    (The only redeeming point is these weren’t undecided as in they change their vote all the time, they were lifelong Republican voters who are now undecided. Still bad.)

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      But that’s still huge. Theyve likely grown up surrounded by conservatives their whole lives. Conservative talk radio, then fox news, oreily factor every night, Sean hannity, glen beck, and now modern social media and YouTube has them getting pumped with ridiculous echo chamber bs.

      The fact they are “undecided” is pretty fucking damning for Republicans and conservatives.

      They are stepping back from an entire world view and even an “identity” they’ve had their whole life. That’s huge.

      It’s fine to be frustrated by it but it’s still a good thing.

      Edit: the good thing is that they are now undecided. Not that half of voters are still voting for the orange turd.

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      I would argue that 99% of voters are voting for it.

      A good example is Democrats’ response to Roe vs Wade repeal. That is to say, except for fundraising, there wasn’t one. They raked in a cool $80 million though: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-elections-campaigns-8a6e3db27082cc212e9e5183b25e7c32.

      When one side actively perpetrates fascism and the other side does nothing to stop it, the difference in rhetoric means absolutely nothing to me.

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        What are you on about, she said she wants Roe back. This just reeks of b b b but dems bad!!

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          So did Joe Biden.

          The problem is he did nothing meaningful to restore it. My point is simple: It doesn’t matter what you say if you’re not going to use the power you have in order to make the change.

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            It essentially wasn’t overturned until he lost the House of Reps. They need House majority, senate majority, presidency, and get rid of the filibuster (which wasn’t going to happen with Manchin). All 4 to pass that legislation. It’s going to be tough to get them all.

            But you don’t care about any of that. Your point misinformation is simple: B b b b b but Dems bad!1!!

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              The ACA and the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act were both passed with a simple majority.

              Put simply, you are incorrect. Hard things are possible if a president is willing to work for the; Sadly, Biden was not.

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                Other things took simple majority, therefore this would take a simple majority too? Outstanding logic. By that logic no one has every filibustered anything, right? If Dobbs was something the GOP wanted, they would have filibustered it.

                lol so thanks for exposing your goal of misinformation. I see no point in continuing to rebut your mental gymnastics, so ciao.

                *ACA was passed 60-39, supermajority.

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                    Who said I accept nothing? Simply because I lay out what needs to happen, while you live in la la land of “president just needs to want it”. Why am I bothering with your nonsense replies, you need to do some reading. Ciao.

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      And half of voters are voting for it.

      Yes, they’re called Democrats.

      This post is about the genocide in Gaza, which is being funded and armed by Joe Biden’s administration, and which Joe Biden could stop at any time simply by telling his Ambassador to the UN to stop vetoing UN resolutions about Israel.

      The fact that you want to blame Republicans for this instead of accepting what your own “side” is doing is a good example of why it’s still happening.

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        We’re stuck with the lesser of two evils, but until we get something like ranked choice voting, that’s what we have to work with. For now our choices are:

        Choice A) a party with some generally decent ideas for improving the quality of living for the majority of Americans. Seeks to help and protect civil rights and marginalized groups, end racism & sexism, and help the middle class. Tools of billionaires and corporations. Has a weird desire to support a genocidal power, with some limp-wristed finger wagging, despite the majority of their constituents being against genocide.

        Choice B) a party apparently filled to the brim with religious fruitcakes, grifters, racists, foreign assets, and pedophiles who generally work to make life shittier for everybody not rich, white, and male. Actively committed to ending democracy and installing a religious fascist government. Tools of billionaires and corporations. They will wholeheartedly support genocide and will likely increase aid to make it happen quicker.

        Choice C) various parties with some potentially interesting ideas that are getting pushed by one of the two main political parties in an attempt to peel away votes from their opposition party. Used as tools of the major political parties. They don’t support genocide, but because they’ll never get into power in the current system, they’re as powerless as anybody else to do anything about it.

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          Yeah. None of the choices are good.

          I can’t bring myself in good conscience to vote for Choice A. I wish I could, but I can’t. Not unless Harris commits to action on Israel, which is looking increasingly unlikely. I understand we’re all dealing with bad options and I understand why some people will still go with Choice A, but I can’t. Genocide is a red line for me.

          I’m aware this increases the chances that we end up in Gilead.

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            I’m aware this increases the chances that we end up in Gilead.

            (Actually, it doesn’t, because I’m not in a swing state.)

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        And “side” is in quotes because they’re not really on your side. They serve the billionaire corporate class, just like the Republicans.