• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    My wife almost never wears makeup. Basically only for things like job interviews.

    And I don’t like how she looks in makeup, so I’m fine with that.

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    don’t real men have a chart of the holistic 29 day cycle in order to offer a bath and pleasant smells in lieu of the “gift” of giving birth?
    good fucking “god” peoples is peoples. some have the burden of procreation. treat them nice.

    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
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      I only date women who do exactly what they want to do and not what society says they should do. As it happens, they generally don’t wear makeup every day.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    It’s not like we wear makeup as some devious plot to trick men and hide our real faces instead of you know, to look good for ourselves. Besides, I don’t think I look that different without makeup, sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

    Anyway, if people really cared that much to see their favorite actress (me) without makeup, would you be interested in getting a copy of “Barbie”, now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services?

    (and there’s “The Wolf of Wall Street” for the naked part.)

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      The self promotion on obscure forums for a handful of up votes and assumption that you are people’s favourite actress makes this account look more like someone pretending to be Margot Robbie, rather than it being genuine.

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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      I might be the minority group here, but I prefer my wife without makeup. After our second date I told her I’d rather see her face as it is, than it be hidden under a mask. Everyone has flaws, it’s what makes us unique and there is beauty in that alone. She hasn’t worn makeup since and were pushing 2 decades of marriage now.

    • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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      I don’t think I look that different without makeup, sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

      For the vast majority of women, that’s probably true, but you only need to look up makeup tutorials on YouTube to see that some women take it to a whole other level where they end up looking almost unrecognizable by the time they’re done.

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        You’re welcome, Agent641.

        Also, that’s esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      sometimes people just ask if I didn’t sleep well last night if I don’t.

      I’ve heard this is a thing.

      I’m a dude, I never sleep well. Anytime I look in the mirror, I can certainly tell that I didn’t sleep well, but I’m almost never asked about it.

      I went for a sleep study earlier this year, I’m meeting with a doctor to discuss the findings in a couple of weeks. Hopefully I can get better sleep soon…

      Even with that being said, it would be nice if someone cared enough to ask about it. At the same time, I can also see that getting asked that question a bunch, regardless of how well you slept, would be pretty annoying.

      IDK. Everyone asks what I’m doing, never how I’m doing. It’s fine. I survive.

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      Boy that would seriously mess with the narrative of this comment section if that were the case

      Edit: oh no

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        Of course the creator is going to tout the most morally upstanding use of his app. If it genuinely helps human trafficking victims, then that’s another story, but from this quote it just seems like he has some vague hope about it.

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        It’s been used by people for nefarious purposes, regardless of its original intent. Both perspectives are valid.

        edit: sexist horseshit is not a valid perspective.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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      Older guy here. I have noticed that now when I look a beautiful young women I feel envy rather than lust. My thoughts go to wishing I was young again rather than wishing I could “tap dat ass” or whatever. Realizing that made kinda sad, NGL.

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          It’s not lile that. I have no regrets, it’s just that I am getting older. Shit hurts all the time or doesn’t work as well as it used to. I am tired and the weight of a lifetime of memories is starting to get heavy. I am the same guy I was at ~21. In thirty years you will be the same guy you are today, but younger people will look at you different. I skateboard, I surf, I snowboard, etc as I have for forty years, but now I am not a dude doing dude things, I am a curiosity or “an inspiration”. I can’t go to a concert or a club to enjoy myself as I always have because now I am the weird old guy in the club. Nevermind that I have been listening to “EDM” since the 80’s. It just sucks that I just can’t be me without it being weird.

          As far as advice, you know what to do. Eat well (little to no proceased food, way less meat, more veggies, etc) exercise regularly, stay active, and drink lots of water. Also, play hard AND work hard for yourself.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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        Given how prevalent make up is, especially with how many stories i heard of women struggling in the office when they did not put on makeup that specific day, how the behavior of random strangers changed etc. that is not true. There are some men, but definitely no the majority.

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    I developed methods which can tell you what women think too. It’s called Talking2M. It’s fun, mostly 3d, open world scenarios, sometimes multiple choice answers …

    More details to come soontm with version 1,1b. Btw: Get a life!

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      The sad thing is that’s basically what people like Andrew Tate get notorious for- A man telling other men what women think.

      I’ve never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend. But then I suppose she would be telling them to do things like “listen to what she’s saying” and “care about her problems” and that’s not what they want to hear.

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      I wonder if eventually it’ll rip your skin off, revealing the bones you are hiding under all that fake skin

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    5 months ago

    I know jack shit about photo editing, but did this person just de-saturate the colors? The eyes and hair look like they are less vivid. Even the background looks different., less dark and more blue?

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    Please don’t roast me here, but why is wanting to know what someone looks like without makeup such a bad thing? I’ve never even thought about it before, so please don’t take this as advocating for it. It just doesn’t immediately occur to me what the problem would be.

    I get why it’s gross to have an app to remove clothing, but makeup feels like a different category.

    What about an app that changes or removes hair? Or one for sunglasses/jewelry?

    Are they all gross in some way that I’m missing? Is it creepy to remove makeup from photos but not creepy to remove earrings?

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      I’ve edited people’s makeup and faces as part of the process of learning Photoshop, so I understand what you’re saying. There are perfectly normal applications for this.

      The issue is intent. A lot of men think that women are “lying” when they wear makeup. They think that the most valuable quality a woman can have is natural beauty, and treat makeup as trickery.

      There’s no shortage of men who think “You’d look better without makeup” is a compliment too.

      An app like this would inevitably be used to help streamline the process of harassIng and negging women online.

      There’s also the matter that women can put great time and effort into their makeup, and having someone remove their hard work from an image and throw it back at them is quite insulting. A makeup artist is still an artist and they likely don’t want their peers wielding tools designed specifically to nullify their work.

      It shouldn’t be illegal or anything. No law against being an asshole. But it isn’t an app that will be used with good intent in most cases, and we should definitely pay attention because the “modify pictures of other people’s faces and bodies” use case for AI appears to have the potential to do a great deal of harm.

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      I don’t know. I’ve seen a few examples of women who have radically changed their looks via skillful application of cosmetics.

      I don’t know what to do with that. On one hand, society expects them to use available techniques to change their appearance to meet standards of beauty very few can ever accomplish. Otoh, it’s dishonest because irl they’re not who they seem to be, so an app that shows them without makeup might be useful. But the catch-22 is that the app may not be right, or that we judge too harshly based on an unattainable standard.

      Man, Beauty is fucked up in the West. CGI, photoshop, photo manipulation have destroyed reality in favor of manipulating what desirability is.

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      On the surface it seems reasonable, but it tends to have misogynistic undertones, especially if said towards strangers.

      It’s like when the paparazzi publishes photos of celebrities with no makeup without their consent. If her makeup skills are good, she gets accused of “deceiving” people about her real age/looks. If her makeup skills are bad, she just gets called ugly.

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      bald

      Snapchat’s offered that for years, though generally you get consent since you’ll point the selfie camera at yourself and a friend.

      Hmm:

      -> thinking about somebody naked

      Widely accepted if you don’t talk about it

      -> Photoshopping somebody naked

      Widely despised (w/o consent). Maybe it’s too linked to the release at some point of the images. but I have a feeling even if no one ever posted that stuff, we would still feel icky about it.

      Interesting, something is icky but I don’t know why

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      It’s kind of creepy to do anything to a photo without consent. I’m a dude with plugs, and it’d be a little off-putting if a stranger I didn’t know digitally removed my ear rings to see what I’d look like.

      This is how I present myself. You can see me without ear rings or makeup when I want you too.

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        Definitely thought you meant hair plugs at first, and that there was an app to give you male pattern baldness.

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    No one here is talking about how the woman in the picture looks the same in both photos? Am I missing something?

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      The skin looks less “flat”/“clean” the face is more pale, the dark rings under the eyes are more noticeable, the lips are less red and the eyebrows are weaker.

      However this is going to be extremely flawed, as it has to make assumptions about which parts of the face are made up and which aren’t, probably exaggerating what it has to “correct” for. Also i wouldn’t be surprised if this will struggle immensely with non white faces.