Summary
Teen drug, alcohol, and tobacco use in the U.S. continues to decline, with record-low usage levels reported in 2023, according to the University of Michigan’s Monitoring the Future survey.
Among 12th graders, 66% reported no recent use of alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes, or e-cigarettes, while 80% of 10th graders and 90% of 8th graders avoided these substances entirely.
Experts attribute the decline partly to reduced peer pressure during the pandemic.
However, nicotine pouch use has doubled among 12th graders, raising concerns.
Despite pop culture’s glamorization of smoking, teen cigarette use remains low.
Gaming and social media is the new addiction.
Considering the article specifies that drugs, alcohol, and tobacco are “social” activities, I think this makes sense. It’s not good that kids are shifting to solitary activities
Gaming is very much a social activity.
Try finding a triple A game released in the last 10 years that hasnt been heavily designed around multiplayer.
It hasnt been until indie games have really caught on, perhaps as a result of the shift towards open world multiplayer gaming that now dominates, that there is still a market for those types of games.
I know multiple married people that used gaming to connect with each other when they had to be apart.
I was actually on one of those married couples first date because they played league of legends, and that was how I even knew them.
Try finding a triple A game released in the last 10 years that hasnt been heavily designed around multiplayer
What? In 2024 alone, would you say games like Alan Wake 2, Baldurs Gate 3 or Elden Ring are “heavily designed around multiplayer”?
Sure you have your FIFA’s and CoD and a bunch of other MP games, but single player games are still a thing.
It’s solitary social activity. Going out and seeing real people can’t be compared to a night gaming. The fact that people don’t see each other is actually a very bad thing because it could be a sign of greater depression and loneliness
If you saw the people I did throughout life, you’d want to stay in the basement as well.
Glad to hear you have met good people throughout life. Just keep in mind not everyone has thar experience.
I couldn’t stand staying indoors all day for work and then never going outside when not at work, it’s too heavy for me
Sorry but that’s like saying social media isnt a social activity. Yes there is s variety of ways to engage with it, but it is something that is causing people to connect with others from a distance.
Its also like saying long distance relationships arent real relationships which would be a ridiculous thing to claim
I believe social media isn’t a social activity because you are laying down on your bed typing on your phone chasing likes and replies. And also comparing a long distance relationship to an in-person one is ridiculous. They are completely different because you are not talking to a person, you are talking to a screen. There is absolutely no comparison to be made between online social activities and real life ones. Talking or gaming online is absolutely different from going out with friends at a chalet for a weekend and it’s a ridiculous thing to say they are similar
We are at an en passe then as we have fundamentally different perspectives on socializing
I’m 41, and my cousin has young teens. I asked “Do kids today even play video games?”
And she said “Not in the way you would think. It’s not about playstation or nintendo. It’s about cell phones and tablets.”
Which made me sad. App gaming is laaaaaame.
I hope that’s just your experience - being relegated to mobile games would be sad. I mean I’m addicted too but I recognize they’re just a time and attention waster.
My older teens are pretty avid gamers as are their friends. One of them started a gaming club at his school! They’re such great kids they sometimes let their Mom or me join a party, and they don’t laugh too hard. But seriously, that’s how they socialize ever since COViD. They’ll spend the entire night in a group chat, listening to music, sometimes teaming up sometimes not, just playing video games and spending time with friends. It works
Yeah as much as this is good news, I think it’s just a sign of changes that have come in the digital age. Young people go out less in general, because their social life is all online. This is probably safer for them at the end of the day - less driving and less access to substances through friends. But still… the fact that young people are glued to their screens all the time is disturbing. Their lives may be longer, but what is the point of living when all you do is sit inside and consume social media?
Nah, here’s the real reason. When I was the nightclubbing age, you could get a bottle of booze, 6 cans of coke and mineral water for like $50. Last time I went to a club, I paid $120 for the same thing. People in the 18-25 age range don’t have $120 to drop every Friday.
You also have to give credit to youngins these days that they are smart enough to spend money by going to gym and choosing to live a healthier lifestyle instead. This is according to many news report.
And also, I think the rise of social media is to be credited as well because instead of going out to socialise, the younger generation are socialising digitally. Of course social media has its drawbacks, which is getting highlighted more in recent years for understandable reasons, but it also has an upside and really it offers many alternatives that traditions couldn’t. I know us older folks begrudge social media, but hey, it’s here to stay. For better or worse.
It’s probably my choice of gym but I see almost no young people in it. It’s mostly 30-somethings that figured out that eating garbage all the time and staying thin stops at 30. Yes, that includes me.
Worth noting that school age kids have a vastly different free times than most of us. I often see the same group you’re talking about at the gym, but if I show up right after 5 I see a bunch of high schoolers. They must like to go just after school.
That makes a lot sense and I didn’t even thought of that.
“Drug use, particularly among adolescents, is typically a social event,” said Miech. “The social distancing policies during the pandemic were designed so that all teenagers and adolescents hardly interacted with anybody except their own immediate family.”
So… they don’t have friends? Very uplifting
So abstinence does work! /s
Well, they have friends, but after spending about a year not seeing them in person, they are used to just meeting them online. At least anecdotally that’s what I’m seeing with the kids of my group, that going out is a hassle and online is good enough. When they do, it’s maybe a total of three or four people hanging out, no big parties to speak of.
On a related note, the schools I know of pretty much stopped having dances other than the prom. In fact, from what I hear, the ability for students to socialize broadly has been pretty much tanked since the pandemic (stricter schedules, no more lockers, and various other measures instituted to avoid congregating students after pandemic and those policies seem to have stuck, presumably because it makes the students a bit easier to manage. It’s been a cause for concern for me about their social development, as while I never was big on those events, I at least remember a lot more downtime on school grounds that our kids don’t seem to get.
Not just them, frankly we haven’t really been seeing folks in person nearly as much since the pandemic. There are certain special occasions, but we almost never have a “random” visit for no particular reason anymore.
I quit smoking a long time ago after many attempts. The key was to simply get poor enough that I simply couldn’t afford it. Perhaps that’s what we’re seeing here.
I’ll offer this as a possible reason: Kids don’t solo travel like they used to. Kids not wanting driver’s licenses as much is a thing.
I think I can speak for older generations a little - we couldn’t wait to get enough independence to have a bike or driver’s license to get out of the house. There was only the telephone to talk to people - as in no internet, no social media, not everyone had computer games or consoles. Eventually you had messaging services like AIM or IRC, but you didn’t really meet up with friends on them because not everyone had PCs, or cared to learn how to use one. There was cable TV if you were lucky, but you didn’t watch that all day. We went from one friend’s house to another, or friends of friend’s homes. You got exposed to a lot more living conditions, often while completely unsupervised. Bored kids or kids with home problems didn’t mind pilfering the alcohol from the parents, or got whatever drug they could. Usually pot. Nothing else to do. Plus some peer pressure.
Now? Kids text. They meet up online on discord or whatever VoIP or messaging service is cool right now. Group chats. Play online games. They don’t need to leave the house to hang out, and in-person hangouts seem way less important to my kids than it ever was to me when I was younger. That’s a lot less opportunity to be introduced to alcohol or other drugs and have the access to them.
So maybe less peer pressure isn’t necessarily a Covid result, it’s the result of social interaction moving to online spaces and not physical spaces where access to alcohol or other drugs are present.
People are also more poor in general.
Wages have been stagnating for over 50 years.
Independence requires financial independence.
It’s not possible to meaningfully participate in society without disposable income.
This leads to the avg person having less power and influence than almost any of their ancestors.
Unfortunately nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I can barely afford to drink in my basement!
But the point is you do it. Keep up the good fight!
I mean if you didn’t had disposable income, drugs were the last of your worries in that scenario
This is a big part of it for sure. I have a 21 year old nephew who refuses to get his license. He just says yeah I’ve got lots of friends that drive me where I need to go. It’s not always going to be like that, kid.
I got my learner’s permit the day I turned 15 and my license the day I turned 16. Couldn’t wait to get away from my family.
Whenever I see one of these polls being published I imagine how I would have answered them when I was that age, and I would have lied about every negative seeming question.
What if the poll wasn’t really anonymous and this data was going to be passed on to future employers or schools?
They don’t want to admit that its because legal recreational pot usage is on the rise as a safer alternative to nicotine and alcohol
I don’t have any friend to get high with :((
I might just be lucky, but I’ve had great success in getting in random friend groups while playing games where you can build things and explore.
Valheim, space engineers, minecraft, terraria. Stuff like that.
I think maybe it has to do with people logging into the dedicated server and seeing the stuff you build and they think of you. Plus lots of those servers will have a discord and that’s basically getting into a ton of people’s DMs. You can post in the discord music you like, funny dumb pictures and memes. Stuff that really shows what you’re interested in. This way people can see if they’re into the same stuff as you. Then you can branch out to other games or even meet ups IRL.
Never stopped me!
Post pandemic scamflation in action
Would like to see the data distribution by geography
Could have fooled me by the way they vote.
Those damned 8th graders, throwing our elections!
Of course better education and all that stuff becoming super expensive makes it much less desirable.
I’ve done a lot of different drugs, and I’d rank the addictiveness of social media between flakka and crack. (I have not done heroine or fenta)
So yeah, good job USA. /s
I just saw a documentary of some sort talking about how movies and tv shows these days are specifically designed to be watchable with minimal viewer engagement because everyone is on their phone and the tv is a second screen. At least, I think that’s what they were saying, I was barely paying attention because I was on my phone doom scrolling. I’ve done every drug in the book plus a bunch that I’d be seriously impressed if you had ever heard of them, and none of them touch the addictiveness of my stupid phone.
Yeah it’s pretty crazy how addictive it is.
Sad thing is not many people listen to drug users. Even though drug users are… the ones that have actual experience in addictiveness.
Oy.
Yes, these self-reporting polls have been used for decade as one measurement device. They were fine when it was self-evident what “smoking”, “drinking”, and “drugs” meant.
Now the issues are far more complex and nuanced, and we now live in a world where the pharmacological knowledge of today’s random 14yo outshines what I would have learned in 2nd year university in the 90s.
Kids drink cough syrup recreationally because “that’s not drugs”. We still live in world of denial where benzos are “drugs” but alcohol isn’t because idk I guess the active molecules are suspended in liquid?
Young people have been propagandized and lied to, to the point many don’t even know if they’re “smoking” or not.
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