• stupidcasey@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    48
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    18 days ago

    Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.

    • highball@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      18 days ago

      I’m old enough to remember when people thought OSX Server was a competitive option because it was technically “unix”. Needless to say, once people figured out Apple was using Linux for their own servers, despite numerous attempts to switch over to OSX Server. OSX Server went tits up. Apparently OSX Server hung around as an addon to OSX for casual use.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      18 days ago

      what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?

      It certainly isn’t the enterprise space, ALL their business features and integrations are half-assed at best and downright painful to use at worst (ESPECIALLY iOS device management, fuck what a shit show that is)

      I came up with the phrase “Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with (half-assed) enterprise features” to describe it perfectly.

      • ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        18 days ago

        And then those “enterprise features” get borked on the next major macOS release.

        Oh you wanted to ensure your remote assist tool could be granted the proper permissions to work? Well screw you! We took away the ability to grant Screen Recording permissions through a MDM profile. Suck it!

        In case you didn’t know the Screen Recording permission is needed to be able to view the display/screen in applications like Zoom when screen sharing or for remote assist through Screen connect.

        Apple’s “reason” was essentially “… Think of the users! It’s for their security”.

    • blackbelt352@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      18 days ago

      The “luxury” space. It’s overpriced hardware with an honestly relatively pretty aesthetic and the OS has so many guardrails they’re hard to really mess up, and when someone does mess it up, apple stores are ubiquitous enough that its a pretty quick trip to get it fixed. Perfect for people with a bit more money than sense who don’t want to or have the time/ability to figure out how to properly use a more flexible OS that requires a bit more knowhow to use and not break.

    • highball@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      15 days ago

      what exactly does MacOS Own exactly

      Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s. But you know, OSX is definitely “unix”.

  • grue@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    17 days ago

    Joke’s on you: GNU/Linux isn’t Unix to begin with (that’s literally what GNU means: “GNU’s Not Unix”)!

    Therefore, MacOS is “the best Unix” only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes (“Unices?” “Unixen?”) – hardly an impressive feat.

    Trollface

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      17 days ago

      BSDs aren’t even Unix AFAIK because they didn’t bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        17 days ago

        Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn’t there a “Unix of Theseus” issue here, if you understand my meaning?

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          17 days ago

          Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn’t.

          Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.

  • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    17 days ago

    But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)

    I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.

    I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.

  • HStone32@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    16 days ago

    Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn’t freedom if Apples winning any awards.

    • highball@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      15 days ago

      It’s definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s.

    • Resol van Lemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      17 days ago

      I still remember the iPad ad where this quote was mentioned and it… idk, it definitely feels a bit weird to me. I’m probably guessing there will be more people who will wonder what a computer is in the future.

      And that ad was from before iOS 11. I’m serious.

    • debil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      17 days ago

      Became a recluse And bought a computer Set it up in the home Elusive big one On the screen Saw the Holy Ghost, I swear On the screen

      Where’s the cursor? Where’s the eraser? Where’s the cursor? Where’s the eraser? G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O H-O-9-O-G-O-H-O

      What’s a computer? Eat y’self fitter What’s a computer? Eat y’self fitter

      I swear, Mark E. Smith was sometimes decades ahead of his time.

  • Presi300@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    17 days ago

    I mean, when we’re talking about UNIX, yeah MacOS is probably one of the best…

    Linux ain’t UNIX though…