He didn’t commute the one Boston bomber, Dylan Roof, and the Tree of Life shooter. Which is good. I don’t agree with the death penalty but you can’t really pardon people like that.
I think you can, especially when the sentence is still life in prison. Remember that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, so they would not ever be paroled.
Well I have to admit I agree with the court there. A pardon should not be an admission of guilt. So even though that changes what I said, I have to concur with them. Thank you for letting me know.
It’s also surprising how the pro life and pro death penalty people are the same people usually.
It shouldn’t be. There is actually no contradiction or mutual exclusivity between the two; it only seems that way because of how the former viewpoint is labeled (it was definitely a PR move to call it “pro life” instead of “anti abortion”, which is a more accurate description of the stance).
Pro lifers believe the unborn are morally equivalent to the newly born, and therefore believe killing/destroying (depending on your perspective) the unborn is equivalent to murder (defined as ‘undeserved killing/execution’), since the unborn is innocent by definition. And because they, like everyone else, believe murder is immoral, they also believe abortion is immoral.
This does not conflict at all with being in favor of the death penalty for someone guilty of a major crime against humanity, because such a person is not innocent, unlike the unborn child.
In fact, on another axis, these two stances are actually in perfect alignment (except in cases of rape, etc. which I believe is why many pro lifers do in fact make exceptions for those cases, being okay with abortion then), in that they both come from the mindset of ‘you must take responsibility and be held accountable for your actions’.
Morally it’s the right thing to do in my eyes. It’s also surprising how the pro life and pro death penalty people are the same people usually.
Pro life only lasts until you’re born. After that it’s pro death.
He didn’t commute the one Boston bomber, Dylan Roof, and the Tree of Life shooter. Which is good. I don’t agree with the death penalty but you can’t really pardon people like that.
I think you can, especially when the sentence is still life in prison. Remember that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, so they would not ever be paroled.
This was true, but that no longer applies. (at least at the federal level; I have no clue how state courts have ruled on this.)
Well I have to admit I agree with the court there. A pardon should not be an admission of guilt. So even though that changes what I said, I have to concur with them. Thank you for letting me know.
It shouldn’t be. There is actually no contradiction or mutual exclusivity between the two; it only seems that way because of how the former viewpoint is labeled (it was definitely a PR move to call it “pro life” instead of “anti abortion”, which is a more accurate description of the stance).
Pro lifers believe the unborn are morally equivalent to the newly born, and therefore believe killing/destroying (depending on your perspective) the unborn is equivalent to murder (defined as ‘undeserved killing/execution’), since the unborn is innocent by definition. And because they, like everyone else, believe murder is immoral, they also believe abortion is immoral.
This does not conflict at all with being in favor of the death penalty for someone guilty of a major crime against humanity, because such a person is not innocent, unlike the unborn child.
In fact, on another axis, these two stances are actually in perfect alignment (except in cases of rape, etc. which I believe is why many pro lifers do in fact make exceptions for those cases, being okay with abortion then), in that they both come from the mindset of ‘you must take responsibility and be held accountable for your actions’.
Hope that clears things up a bit.