• Zak@lemmy.world
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    Much as I’d like to blame Trump for everything bad that happened during his term, the pandemic and surrounding craziness caused a spike in crime, and Trump did not cause the pandemic.

    Biden did not end the pandemic or its social impacts. I’d argue the pandemic isn’t really over, but most of its social impacts are.

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      I would say Trump might deserve some of the blame for the pandemic because he cut the CDC’s pandemic response funding in the 1st or 2nd year of his term.

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      Trump did next to nothing about the pandemic when it turns out “something” was his job

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        Biden also did next to nothing.

        In fact, pretty much the entire West did next to nothing. They don’t care if we live or die.

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          What he did do was get vaccine distribution working. That made a world of difference in fatality rates

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            What an accomplishment to distribute vaccines so that people can go back to the office/to the shops. Only a superhero could manage that.

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            The person you responded to has not one iota of good faith. I’ve seen them in dozens of threads pushing accelerationist lies. They want this country to burn.

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            What does this even mean? Biden just happened to benefit from research that began before he was even president.

            Also continued the Trump policy of spreading vaccine misinformation in Asia to undermine China, causing countless deaths.

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              It means his team arranged for actual delivery, federal payments, and not just dumping it on the system, which weren’t prepared

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                The vaccine was finished in Trump’s lame duck period, Biden had to finish Trump’s job because he’s a psychopath and didn’t feel like doing anything if he wasn’t president anymore.

                But vaccines are not the end of the pandemic. Biden just used them to trick everyone into thinking it’s over.

                COVID is still killing people.

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                  It’s not the end; it’s not something that ever ends, in the same way that influenza still kills people.

                  But vaccines got us from a disease that was killing an awful lot more people to one where it’s one that kills a few.

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          I’m not interested in arguing with a BoTH SiDeS liar and never will be.

          Btw thanks for being the reason trump finishes us off. Enjoy the weather in Russia

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              I know you know how the debate went last night, and I’m sure you’re delighted. No need to pretend with me.

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                I think it’s funny, but I’m still voting Dem downticket myself because I don’t want Trump to have support from Congress.

                Democrats should embrace it. I bet Jamal Bowman wouldn’t have lost if he withdrew his support for Biden, and all the other progressives at least should do the same. Just make the election about the House and Senate and state level races.

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                  Why do you paper all of lemmy with anti-biden sentiment if you care about preventing trump’s influence? I do not buy it. I’ve seen this behavior from you repeatedly.

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        Hey, be fair. He actively worked to make it worse and committed literal acts of piracy, stealing PPE intended for blue states and giving them to his son-in-law to resell. Remember when Boston had to borrow the Pats private jet to prevent the PPE that the city bought from being stolen? You bet your ass Pepperidge Farm fucking remembers.

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          I have worked hard to remind some of the Trump-voting Massholes I have the pleasure of interacting with on a regular basis of this. I think I’ve made inroads with at least one of them. I also make sure to bring this up:

          “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy.”

          Trump committed negligent homicide in blue states for political gain.

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          I don’t remember much about that, but it’s easy for me to believe he did about any bad deed after these last 8 years

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      We’re still seeing the endemic effects of the pandemic because Trump did nothing.

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        He didn’t do nothing, though. He polarized masks, and the disease itself, killing hundreds of thousands of people.

        Edit: I have multiple family members that actually have become fully anti-vax since his presidency. They were NEVER anti-vax before Trump. So he’s likely killed millions of people from the way he handled things.

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          Yes, 100% agree with you. I should have said he did nothing to address the situation, and definitely made it worse, particularly with his remarks.

          In 2021 I had to take a Lyft ride in LA for work, and my driver spent the whole ride telling me about his bleach spray that he would spray up with nose and into his throat to prevent COVID smh.

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      It is exhausting to hear people talk about “The Crime Wave!” every time any crime metric ticks up by even the smallest margin. We haven’t had “high crime” in the US since the early 90s, but we get media coverage of crime like every major city is an active war zone.

      Every four years, we have a President waltz in - point at a blip downward - and say he “Solved Crime!” by throwing an extra ten billion at domestic security budgets. Then a new contender shows up and insists we still need even more cops, because a different stat blipped upwards.

      I’d argue the pandemic isn’t really over, but most of its social impacts are.

      You’re going to get a lot of very angry people posting at you for suggesting COVID continues to plague the country (particularly service sector workers and people working in meat packing plants, where the disease still runs rampant).

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        Yeah, I am in my 40s and when people significantly older than me talk about how crime is worse than it has ever been I am always like “I guess you don’t remember 1970-2000”.

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      Start asking why manufacturing companies have drug their asses fixing the obvious issues plauging the security of our cars. Basic thingslikee having physical keys that function like a key. Not a RFID tag. Push button start is so fucking lazy for security.

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      Sounds like a problem for manufacturers. After all, federal regulation seems to be on a down turn thanks to conservative justices.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    It seems safe to predict, however, that Donald Trump — a felon who has been found civilly liable for sexual abuse and defamation — will try to make a good bit of the debate about crime.

    It also seems safe to predict that almost everything he says about crime (and other subjects, like the economy) will be deeply misleading, if not outright lies, despite the prospect of real-time and post hoc fact-checking.

    After all, Trump and his allies have spent months falsely portraying America as a nation terrorized by a wave of violent crime, pointing the finger at migrants and claiming that President Biden is responsible.

    As of last year, weekday traffic was still well below prepandemic levels, presumably reflecting fewer people commuting into downtown offices given the rise in remote and hybrid work.

    But weekend foot traffic, driven by people choosing to take advantage of urban amenities, had almost fully recovered — which wouldn’t be happening if shoppers, tourists and so on were terrified of crime.

    And the president probably deserves some credit for that success — among other things, the American Rescue Plan included a lot of aid to state and local governments, which may have encouraged additional spending on law enforcement.


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