I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn’t this like if you couldn’t send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?
Like, you’re not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don’t see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way
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What? Let me guess, you’re a flat earther too?
These are seasoned ex-redditors here, do you think trying to antagonize them is going to work? Move along.
I think the argument is that Meta would hoover up and profit from posts from people who don’t consent to use it. AFAIK, you can’t block an instance from seeing your posts and comments, so the only real option is defederation.
You can’t block anything from seeing your posts and comments though. That is point of a free and public space. Defederation isn’t doing what you think it is
Sure, websites could scrape and whatnot, but having actual API integration is a very different thing.
All the arguments were had here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/11011288
edit: and the subsequent vote where we decided to defederate: https://sh.itjust.works/post/11308397
Because I remember this https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
And it feels like deja vu.
I can’t stand what the internet is turning in to. Turn off moderation like it used to be. It used to be the wild west, now it’s a dystopian hellscape. I prefer the wild west myself.
Fascist-adjacent.
Overwhelmingly large.
E-mail does not work the same way.
because fuck facebook and its ten other names and fuck zuckerberg too
Well, this was extremely disappointing. Only one person had a helpful reply, pointing to this link explaining the basics, a couple others vaguely gestured about their distaste of Meta, and everyone else demonstrated an even lesser understanding of the fediverse than I had started with. One particular flat-earther just called me a slag and posted a screenshot of themselves downvoting all my comments.
Or people checked your comment history and saw that your first ever comment was to vote against defederation, and you haven’t done anything besides drop pseud-posts whenever people expressed their desire not to federate with Threads. That does not look like good faith engagement to me.
There’s a lot of reactionary anti-corpo types here. There’s really no good reason for users to want to defederate from a Facebook owned instance. It’s also a pointless stance, as threads is a Twitter/mastodon style site and not really compatible with reddit/lemmy style sites.
There are some technical reasons to avoid federating for those hosting instances. The software forces local copies of everything users subscribe to which is a massive space concern. There’s also a problem with performance of syncing that data for large instances that’s already a problem with .world size instances, where it can take a day+ to process new comments.
There’s really no good reason for users to want to defederate from a Facebook owned instance.
Yeah why would anyone object to a company that manipulated people for the fascist who tried to overthrow the US government, and recently hired a co-author of Project 2025? ‘You just don’t like it!’
That’s a reson to not subscribe or participate, not defederate.
